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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

BattleRaizer from Realm of Khorne Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#106176: Jul 26th 2019 at 9:50:17 AM

I just watch a video about Plot Twist and at the end she talk about if Quicksilver didn't die in Age of Ultron and how it could lead to more interesting plot point and character moment.

- If Quicksilver was still alive, he would be in Civil War and there a possibility he have to fight his sister.

- His sister got snap in Infinity War and how he have to deal with that.

- He can even fill the role of someone who look up to Tony rather than Peter.

- He can confront Hawkeye during his vigilantly time due to both of them have lost their family.

E.T technically is a Isekai movie
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#106177: Jul 26th 2019 at 9:52:26 AM

He can even fill the role of someone who look up to Tony rather than Peter.

Yeah, that's unlikely. I don't know if Wanda and Pietro ever really lost their grudge against Stark.

The latter died before it was addressed and with the former it was ignored.

One Strip! One Strip!
BattleRaizer from Realm of Khorne Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#106178: Jul 26th 2019 at 9:56:37 AM

If he still alive, the story could develop his character, make him get over his grudge with Tony and inspired to be a hero thank to Tony. this in turn lead to his joining with Tony during Civil War and have to fight his sister, who still have a huge grudge against Tony.

E.T technically is a Isekai movie
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#106179: Jul 26th 2019 at 9:57:24 AM

If anything Wanda got more grudge against Tony after he put her under house arrest for blowing up some bystanders

Edit: I’ll only say that when the MCU has trouble developing the characters it does have, adding another one doesn’t necessarily mean that he’d get satisfactory development in any case

Edited by Bocaj on Jul 26th 2019 at 1:00:48 PM

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ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#106180: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:04:20 AM

It seems like some Chinese fans aren't as excited for Shang-Chi as I expected[1] and they're accusing Marvel of racism over the Mandarin[2]

Edited by ComicFan on Jul 26th 2019 at 10:10:40 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#106181: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:10:15 AM

When we last saw Wanda, she was on a team of heroes specifically railing against Tony's control after Tony put her in jail, albeit while playing Romeo and Juliet with Tony's robot.

She died like a day later, without ever seeing Tony again until at a distance at the final battle of Endgame. So the grudge should still be there, yeah. He and Cap made up, but not everyone got the chance to.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 26th 2019 at 10:12:18 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#106182: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:12:01 AM

Wanda, after the final battle: "Oh thank god he's dead I MEAN OH NO GREAT TRAGEDY TO THE WORRRRLD"

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#106183: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:13:02 AM

They were going to give Tony a grave instead of the "flower in the stream" thing, but Wanda kept dancing on top of it.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#106184: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:15:49 AM

"Wanda for the sake of decency stop it"
"ITS MY CULTURE"
"Really. You're really going to claim that dancing on graves is your culture?"
"Specifically dancing on specifically Tony Stark's grave is a proud Sokovian tradition dating back several years"
".............. I'm going to check wikipedia."

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#106185: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:19:58 AM

Maybe they'll bring Quicksilver back from the dead in Wanda Vision

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#106186: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:20:45 AM

Or Mo M depending on the Multiverses we go to.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#106187: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:26:44 AM

Ooh, that's right: since they're going to be exploring the multiverse (presumably), he might show up in the next Doctor Strange. But it wouldn't be him exactly, it would be a AU version of him.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#106188: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:27:38 AM

[up]...Don’t suppose they can have X-Men Quicksilver.

Cue the Eurythmics.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#106189: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:39:22 AM

[up][up] It be the perfect comic book nonsense to finally bring back Quicksilver........ only for it to not be the same Quicksilver. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 26th 2019 at 10:43:30 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#106190: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:42:14 AM

That's what I was saying before - they could bring in the Quicksilver from the xmen movies

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#106191: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:46:30 AM

No, they shouldn't do that.

Instead, they could explore an AU where Wanda died instead of him. Or one where Hawkeye died. Or one where nobody died and they are all Avengers Babies.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#106192: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:48:30 AM

Making their dreams come true

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#106193: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:48:51 AM

Ooh, that's right: since they're going to be exploring the multiverse (presumably), he might show up in the next Doctor Strange. But it wouldn't be him exactly, it would be a AU version of him.

Only if Multiverse of Madness is referring to a multiverse in the "Earth-616, Earth-1610, Earth-199999, etc." sense.

Given that it's a Dr. Strange film and is supposed to feature Nightmare, I think it's more likely they're referring to a multiverse in the "Dark Dimension, Mephisto's Realm, Avalon, etc." sense. Dr. Strange is probably going to be interacting with eldritch creatures from beyond time and space, not Cowboy Iron Man and a Wolverine who is also Captain America.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 26th 2019 at 11:49:08 AM

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#106194: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:49:31 AM

[up][up][up]This isn’t the 80’s. You can do “X” Babies spinoffs anymore.

Yes, I know there’s an actual X-Babies book. My point stands.

Edited by Beatman1 on Jul 26th 2019 at 1:49:47 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#106195: Jul 26th 2019 at 10:53:58 AM

This isn’t the 80’s. You can do “X” Babies spinoffs anymore.
Tell that to the end of Fearless #1, which featured West Coast Avengers (2018) Babies. Including Baby Gwenpool holding a Baby Jeff the Baby Shark plushie.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#106196: Jul 26th 2019 at 1:08:52 PM

Mr Sunday Movies' breakdown of Marvel's SDCC offerings.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#106197: Jul 26th 2019 at 7:29:41 PM

About to start watching Daredevil, yay.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106198: Jul 26th 2019 at 7:30:58 PM

[up]You're about to watch a great series, put more energy into that yay, soldier!

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#106199: Jul 26th 2019 at 8:15:47 PM

it's good but the asian representation really blows and the second season turns into a disaster

i heard season 3 was a lot better though

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#106200: Jul 26th 2019 at 8:21:16 PM

Season 2 is so much better than Season 1. Watching Foggy and Karen investigate Fisk was boring as it gets.


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