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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#106001: Jul 24th 2019 at 9:52:34 AM

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-Loves cheeseburgers

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#106002: Jul 24th 2019 at 10:09:39 AM

[up][up] Captain America was able to use at least some Lightning powers when he weilded the hammer, as well as summon it back to him.

Odin's enchantment was "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.". Taken literally, Odin basically copied Thor's inherent powers into the hammer itself. So while Thor always has Thor's powers, so does any worthy person holding Mjolnir.

So if Jane Foster is worthy and holds the hammer, she will posses the powers of Thor.

Edited by Falrinn on Jul 24th 2019 at 1:10:31 PM

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#106003: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:00:03 AM

Odin did also strip Thor of his inherent powers when he first made the enchantment. However, as noted, post-Character Development Thor still has his powers even without Mjolnir and other people who wield Mjolnir also get Thor's powers. So while it was originally a test of character for a depowered Thor, it now clones Thor's powers onto any other Worthy person who holds the thing.

Note that this is pretty much the whole basis of both Lady Thor and Beta Ray Bill: they're characters who are also Worthy to wield Mjolnir and were thus granted the powers of Thor while holding it. Odin later forged the comic version of Stormbreaker as a copy-Mjolnir for Bill, so that he could have a Thor-hammer of his own.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 24th 2019 at 12:00:57 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#106004: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:01:03 AM

oh no

Jane is going to transform in Thor,so there will be two Thors

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#106005: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:02:15 AM

Don't be two Thor about it

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#106006: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:04:27 AM

Since Jane has a PHd in Astrophysics, she's legally Dr. Thor.

The Docthor. [lol]

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 24th 2019 at 11:05:13 AM

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#106007: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:16:40 AM

I would really love to see some sort of Passing the Torch scene that has Thor bequeath his power to Foster. Of course, it gets a bit weird since Thor's name is Thor; it's not an identity he assumes. So calling someone else Thor risks confusion.

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#106008: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:21:32 AM

"Call me Docthor Fosthor"
"... no."

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#106009: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:24:41 AM

I'd love for there two be two Thors running around in the MCU. Twice the madness!

Does Jane-as-Thor have a Rogues Gallery that's mostly her own? Marvel doesn't typically do that as prolifically as DC does.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 24th 2019 at 11:26:14 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#106010: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:30:21 AM

I want two, not a Passing the Torch.

Then again we could have Thor trying to rename himself something like “War Thor” only for everyone to admit it sounds really stupid.

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Lost in Space
#106011: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:32:37 AM

Has Hemsworth extended his contract with Marvel? I was under the distinct impression that he had plans to leave the MCU, making this film the ideal place to get him out of the story. Which is not to say that he can't cameo at some future date, but I'd bet almost anything that he won't have a main role going forwards.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 24th 2019 at 2:32:50 PM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#106012: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:34:00 AM

I recall in the comics when Jane took on the name of Thor, Thor 1.0 went by "Odinson".

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#106013: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:36:50 AM

Maybe he could go by his middle name

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#106014: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:41:54 AM

Tony could probably lift Stormbreaker, no questions asked.

Thanos can lift Stormbreaker. There's no wielder-restricting enchantment whatsoever on it as far as we know.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106015: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:57:27 AM

Figther: I'm guessing now that he doesn't have to work out half to death Mr. Hemsworth is far more willing to keep working with Marvel.

No need for the fat suit, but if Fa Thor doesn't show up in some manner in GOTG Vol. 3, I am fucking out.

Edited by HailMuffins on Jul 24th 2019 at 3:58:02 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#106016: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:57:30 AM

Stormbreaker has no worthiness requirement, it has a power requirement. You lift it by physical strength, not force of character (which, by itself, is a interesting commentary on Thor's situation in Infinity War and Endgame). The way Thor talks about it in Infinity War hints most Avengers probably wouldn't be able to lift it because they're puny mortals, though.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#106017: Jul 24th 2019 at 11:59:04 AM

I recall an interview where Hemsworth was hyped to play this new phase of Thor, believing it to be what the character truly should have been all along & a new era for him.

So this shouldn’t be his last ride, just the start of a new adventure otherwise his excitement for the character now makes no sense.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 24th 2019 at 11:59:57 AM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#106018: Jul 24th 2019 at 12:00:24 PM

Steve's not exactly a puny mortal but he does lift Stormbreaker as well as Mjolnir. So, at the very least "peak human" is strong enough lift it.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#106019: Jul 24th 2019 at 12:13:22 PM

But he was already imbued with Mew-Mews powers and therefore equal to Thor when he picked Stormbreaker.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#106020: Jul 24th 2019 at 12:53:51 PM

Stormbreaker has no worthiness requirement, it has a power requirement.
As Thor himself states:
Peter Quill: Don't you think that we should all have a weapon like that?
Thor: No. You simply lack the strength to wield them. Your bodies will crumble as your minds collapse into the madness.
Rocket: Is it weird that I wanna do it even more now?
Thor: A little bit. Yeah.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#106021: Jul 24th 2019 at 12:55:19 PM

[up]I’m with Rocket on that one.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#106023: Jul 24th 2019 at 1:17:34 PM

I think it will be easier if they call Jane Thunderstrike, since I’m pretty sure Eric Masterson won’t appear in the MCU.

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#106024: Jul 24th 2019 at 1:21:31 PM

wild mass guessThor: Love and Thunder is going to ape Shazam and make a whole family of Thors.wild mass guess

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#106025: Jul 24th 2019 at 1:27:06 PM

I keep telling you, they should have called it Thor Four: Four Thors.


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