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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105901: Jul 23rd 2019 at 9:30:05 AM

Should I have put that in spoiler tags? It's a super minor tertiary character in Far From Home.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 23rd 2019 at 9:31:32 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105902: Jul 23rd 2019 at 9:33:09 AM

Maybe they should start off with the terrible Two,then slowly add members so they become the fearsome three,then four to become fatal four..then 5 so they become the famous five..

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105904: Jul 23rd 2019 at 9:40:21 AM

You know,I just thought of something,if you wanted to quickly introduce the villains without having to worry about doing introductions they could go the time skip route so the audience assumes Peter has already been fighting them for awhile,so like they introduce them in the middle of the fight at start where's he losing then the narration " So this is how I ended up fighting the Sinister Six"

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#105905: Jul 23rd 2019 at 10:16:34 AM

They should do a The Dark Knight or Winter Soldier style opening, where Spidey is fighting a non essential super-villain

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#105907: Jul 23rd 2019 at 10:37:24 AM

[up]He’s hopefully getting a supporting role. Glad to see he’s encouraging the casting.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105908: Jul 23rd 2019 at 10:40:22 AM

He caused Halle Berry to be deaf in one ear

He doesn't deserve even a cameo

"It was only when I was in an abusive relationship and blood squirted on the ceiling of my apartment and I lost 80 percent of my hearing in my ear that I realized, I have to break the cycle,” said Berry."

She later revealed the identity of one of her abusers. It was her costar from the critically acclaimed movie Jungle Fever, and former boyfriend, Wesley Snipes. He had hit her so hard that she had lost the ability to hear in her right ear.

Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 23rd 2019 at 5:42:12 PM

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#105909: Jul 23rd 2019 at 10:41:24 AM

I remembered the Trapster the other day, and I'd kind of like him to show up, even as a cameo, especially if he's addressed as "Paste Pot Pete".

Also, needless to say, these reveals of upcoming shows and movies have been awesome.

One thought I had RE the real (real) Mandarin is that I think it would be cool to have him as a genuinely good father (and Affably Evil), despite being evil, and have Shang Chi be aware of his evil as part of the backstory, not as a reveal during the movie. Basically, I see him as being presented in a way that invites some comparisons to both Ego and T'Chaka, but with distinct differences.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#105911: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:05:08 AM

Killian is infinitely better than Malekith and I have no idea how it could even be considered close. I might even prefer Killian to Vanko.

I walked out on Iron Man 3 when I first saw it in disgust, but when i went back and rewatched it, to give it a fairer shake, I weirdly found Killian to be one of the highlights that time around.

Of the many underdeveloped villains in the MCU, I think Killian is the best of them. with Cross and Kaecilius having the potential to be far better if they were actually given time.

Kaze ni Nare!
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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#105913: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:12:54 AM

Cross like anything in that movie suffer for having to shoehorn Scott in there even when is clear he have not buissness in the plot, Kaelicus simple didnt bother with it at all.

In general, origin stories are the weakest movie so far.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#105914: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:24:11 AM

[up] The one scene where they actually let Kaecilius have a character was one of my favourites in the entire film.

Which almost made it worse because I saw what they could've done but didn't feel like doing because we needed more Beyonce jokes I guess.

Kaze ni Nare!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105915: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:27:51 AM

[up][up] Uh it’s been kinda explained why Scott was brought in on the deal.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:27:59 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105917: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:54:45 AM

Huh I think I can see purple there.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#105918: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:55:13 AM

Too bad it doesn't have the fabulous circlet. I'm imagining he escaped during the chaos of the Snap.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#105919: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:56:04 AM

[up][up][up][up]Yeah marvel have a issue of trying to make is villian sound serious overall, often too much they are just there so the hero look badass.

[up][up][up]Yeah because he is "expendable" which no only make Hank look like a jerk, it waste time training him when hope is more capable that him, it also introduce the problem that cross already figure out what Hank try to do by seen the newspaper about Scott escape and figuring it was him, meaning that Hank botch the whole plan he bring scott about.

Yeah antman wasnt a good movie, the second fix everything tho.

Edited by unknowing on Jul 23rd 2019 at 2:57:05 PM

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105920: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:56:47 AM

[up]x4 Beautiful beard win!

And I still get the chills at Bucky's brainwashing:

Edited by HailMuffins on Jul 23rd 2019 at 3:57:06 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105921: Jul 23rd 2019 at 11:58:06 AM

[up][up] So you don't understand the point of the movie then.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#105922: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:15:04 PM

[up]I get it, it was just stupid.

Anyway, So....what would zemo motivation now? he was almost against cap and stark and now those two are out, what else he could do?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105923: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:20:56 PM

[up] Its not stupid.

Scott was the impartial element that bridged Hank & Hope so they can get over their own issues. On their own they were never gonna solve anything because their own pride & jackassery prevented them from ever truly working to together.

Scott offered a third eyes view that forced Hank & Hope to actually resolve their issues. Without him the plan would have never went forward.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:21:31 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#105924: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:22:23 PM

Okay there's a lot of news to process but can I just say I am so happy about the new Thor movie.

When Valkyrie was given the role of King I figured it was actually just a way to quietly write her out of the overarching plot and relegate her to tertiary roles since at that point Asgard was greatly diminished. But now she's probably going to be a bigger part of the new movie than Chris Hemsworth is. (Not that I don't love Hemsworth!)

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#105925: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:23:08 PM

Good but it force Scott to play peacemaker between two guy who plan of using him because he is dispensable(a notion that make me dislike Hank a lot), he just make them a couple of stupid stuborn guys who cant do this without him.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

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