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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105726: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:26:07 PM

They took Past Mjolnir back into the past.

Where is the Mjolnir coming from for Jane? Are they going to glue the chunks of the broken one back together?

Edited by Bocaj on Jul 21st 2019 at 4:26:49 AM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#105727: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:26:53 PM

My guess for the Disney+/Hulu split is that the Hulu shows will be TV-14 or even TV-MA. I really doubt the Disney+ shows will go past TV-PG.
I mean, one of the biggest draws for Disney+ is a show that, among other things, depicted on screen a teenage girl beheading four people; torture, both electrical and otherwise; chattel slavery; terrorism; a shark dude's decapitated head floating through the water; various impalements and other beheadings; and an outright genocide. Also a dude getting bisected by a security door, but we only see half of that. And its now going to be continued and concluded on Disney+ with one of the biggest Downer Endings in fiction.

I think its safe to say that Marvel and Star Wars are somewhat exempt from Disney proper's family-friendly image.

Edited by TheAirman on Jul 21st 2019 at 3:32:19 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105728: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:27:16 PM

[up]x3 Except there is no Mew-Mew anymore, Cap sent it back in time at the end of Endgame.

Of course, they could forge a third hammer and call it Thunderstrike.

Edited by HailMuffins on Jul 21st 2019 at 5:28:10 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105729: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:27:22 PM

Which show is that?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
alanh Since: May, 2010
#105730: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:27:38 PM

And if vampires didn't count as living beings for the Snap, their numbers weren't diminished.

Edited by alanh on Jul 21st 2019 at 1:28:00 AM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#105731: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:28:45 PM

@Bocaj: Star Wars: The Clone Wars

Edited by TheAirman on Jul 21st 2019 at 3:30:42 AM

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#105732: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:28:59 PM

They were hiding in the same basement as the mutants.

Mutants are definitely something a lot harder to deal with.

I guess you could do the same thing as I proposed for Vampires, they have always been around, but historically have been extremely few in number. Only exploding in population due to recent events.

This is not actually unprecedented in the comics. I'm not sure on the current status of the concept in comics canon, but at least at one point the advent of nuclear weapons was associated with the mutant population skyrocketing.

All they need to do in this change the event from nuclear detonations to something much more recent, an unintended side effect of The Snap for example. That way you could still have people like Charles Xavier and Magneto being around for awhile, but most mutants will have only recently come into their powers.

Where is the Mjolnir coming from for Jane? Are they going to glue the chunks of the broken one back together?

In all seriousness, I do think the original Mjolnir is going to be reforged. It's pieces were presumably left in the Norwegian field Thor and Loki confronted Hela in, and now all the Asgardians are in Norway now. Eitri might even show up since I doubt he wants to stay all alone in deep space forever. And if anyone knows how to repair the hammer, it's him.

Edited by Falrinn on Jul 21st 2019 at 4:34:41 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105733: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:30:10 PM

[up]That is the canonical explanation behind the spike of mutants in the comics during the Sixties.

"Children of the Atom", see.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105734: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:30:35 PM

Something occured to me: they told us that Jane Foster will be Thor. They TOLD us that, it was one of the first things we learned about Thor: Love and Thunder. That means it's not a plot twist, it probably happens within the first act of the movie.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105735: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:33:43 PM

Frankly, I'm not feeling it with Jane, I'd rather Sif got to be the new Thor.

Well, new God(dess) of Thunder, Thor being the guy's name and everything.

alanh Since: May, 2010
#105736: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:38:52 PM

The Clone Wars was rated TV-PG. Remember, on American TV violence isn't a problem. Swearing and sex is what gets you into trouble, and that's probably what the Hulu series will have.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105737: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:39:49 PM

I'm hoping Bill comes in & makes it a threesome.

Shit if Sif comes back then its a foursome. tongue

[up] Amusingly in Japan its sorta the reverse.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 21st 2019 at 1:54:49 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#105738: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:53:37 PM

I think you mean a Thorsome. [lol]

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 21st 2019 at 1:54:25 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#105739: Jul 21st 2019 at 2:00:54 PM

Where is the Mjolnir coming from for Jane? Are they going to glue the chunks of the broken one back together?

Well, it's not like Mjolnir hasn't needed to be reforged before right? And as someone else pointed out, there's the possibility of Etri fixing it if he gets his hands on the pieces.

One Strip! One Strip!
ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#105740: Jul 21st 2019 at 2:06:10 PM

Black Widow vs Taskmaster concept art[1]

Edited by ComicFan on Jul 21st 2019 at 2:10:25 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#105741: Jul 21st 2019 at 2:15:58 PM

Ohh, that is a slick Taskmaster.

Looks like he's studied Cap's shield skills.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#105742: Jul 21st 2019 at 2:18:20 PM

He looks cool, but I'm not sure what the in-universe point is to have both a hood and a mask.

The legend has returned.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105744: Jul 21st 2019 at 2:33:35 PM

I still wish there was something coming out early 2020.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#105745: Jul 21st 2019 at 2:40:08 PM

Looks cooler than initial previews suggested, but I still would've preferred the Agent X UDON design, and for him to wear a normally-textured costume. There's a point at which the MCU armored aesthetic becomes overly samey.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#105746: Jul 21st 2019 at 3:44:52 PM

Oh, so Black Widow's going to be fighting Taskmaster in her movie? Cool. That ought to be a good fight, considering his abilities.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#105747: Jul 21st 2019 at 3:54:31 PM

Celestial concept art for Eternals[1]

Edited by ComicFan on Jul 21st 2019 at 3:55:57 AM

indigoJay from The Astral Plane Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#105748: Jul 21st 2019 at 3:57:40 PM

Look, I'm all for more diversity, but Jane Foster as Thor doesn't seem like the best choice to me. Issues with the comics run aside: MCU Jane Foster is an incredibly talented astrophysicist, but she's just not a warrior. I would love to see Valkyrie as Thor, and I would be ok with Sif in the position.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105749: Jul 21st 2019 at 3:59:38 PM

> but she's just not a warrior

Mew mew does not agree

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105750: Jul 21st 2019 at 4:01:36 PM

Celestial concept art for Eternals

Holy crap, we've been sleeping on Eternals.


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