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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Interesting Person #928
#105701: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:42:16 AM

A Spy Kids-esque Power Pack movie seems about right to me. Maybe not my kind of movie, but it fits.

Edited by KusaMigeru on Jul 21st 2019 at 2:42:50 PM

... And that's called jazz!
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#105702: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:47:20 AM

According to the wiki, Shang-Chi is Peak Human level, but I imagine that in the movie they will put him on the same level as a super-soldier or even at the level of Spiderman.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#105703: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:47:22 AM

Disney does own about 25% of movie theater ticket sales IIRC. And as pointed out, they sell a lot more than movies. Honestly, they're actually kind of a megacorp. They even own a small municipal government.

Having said that, it should be noted that by the standards of a megacorp, they are pretty weak. They've got nothing on Wal-Mart or Shell, for example.

Leviticus 19:34
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#105704: Jul 21st 2019 at 11:04:07 AM

Yet.

Wake me up at your own risk.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105705: Jul 21st 2019 at 11:23:23 AM

According to the wiki, Shang-Chi is Peak Human level, but I imagine that in the movie they will put him on the same level as a super-soldier or even at the level of Spiderman.
That wouldn't work, though, because unlike Captain America, Shang-Chi never took any super soldier serum. He's just a normal person who trained really hard and became the "Master of Kung Fu." That's what makes him awesome: he doesn't have any super strength, no super powers, but he can still kick your ass.

(Please ignore the storyline where Hickman gave him superpowers.)

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#105706: Jul 21st 2019 at 11:28:58 AM

Shang-Chi routinely fights outside of his weight class anyway. It's a bombastic kung fu action flick: they probably won't bother justifying anything, nor do they need to. The "these guys are doing things that are way outside of human ability" bit is part of the fun.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2019 at 11:29:32 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#105707: Jul 21st 2019 at 11:31:41 AM

"Peak human" in Marvel terms has always been a tad bullshit at any rate.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#105708: Jul 21st 2019 at 11:32:47 AM

Shang-Chi, just like Iron Fist, has mastered controlling his Chi.

So while he isn't superhuman in the classical sense, he isn't exactly 'human' either.

Edited by Forenperser on Jul 21st 2019 at 8:33:58 PM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105709: Jul 21st 2019 at 11:34:46 AM

Considering the amount of ass the average martial artist hero kicks already:

You don't really need to give Shang-Chi any superpowers.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105710: Jul 21st 2019 at 11:35:58 AM

Wait Disney controls a government?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105711: Jul 21st 2019 at 11:40:23 AM

Yep. Two, in fact. They mainly govern the land around Walt Disney World and permanent residence is, like, 10 people, though.

Edited by alliterator on Jul 21st 2019 at 11:42:28 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#105713: Jul 21st 2019 at 12:09:08 PM

I'll say it again: Only way it could be better is if Disney said "fuck Hulu" and made every MCU/Marvel property Disney+.

PhilosopherStones Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm from The North (lots of planets have them) (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Anyways Here's Darude Sandstorm
#105714: Jul 21st 2019 at 12:13:27 PM

OMG A BLADE MOVIE?!?!

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GIVE ME YOUR FACE
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#105717: Jul 21st 2019 at 12:44:55 PM

On the subject of Blade, I am curious to see how they are going to integrate Vampires into the MCU given that it might be tricky to explain how they've gone unnoticed for so long.

The simplest way might be to establish that, for the past couple hundred years at least, Vampires have been extremely few in number (like a dozen total) who went to considerable lengths to hide their existence from the world at large. Potentially we only need a single living Vampire in the entire world, Deacon Frost, to be around at the time of Blade's birth.

That way they could of flown under the radar, and then at some point prior to the main story of Blade's movie, their numbers start to rise again. A problem Blade is uniquely suited to deal with. Likely with the help of people who have had vampire hunting techniques passed down to them from their ancestors.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#105718: Jul 21st 2019 at 12:49:43 PM

They were hiding in the same basement as the mutants.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105720: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:00:02 PM

Captain America is secretly a Werewolf and hates vampires

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105721: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:01:22 PM

Vampires believably fit into the same category of 'beneath the Avengers' notice' as everything going on in the Netflix shows

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105722: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:01:32 PM

I knew we'd get Capwolf in there somewhere.

alanh Since: May, 2010
#105723: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:10:14 PM

My guess for the Disney+/Hulu split is that the Hulu shows will be TV-14 or even TV-MA. I really doubt the Disney+ shows will go past TV-PG.

Edited by alanh on Jul 21st 2019 at 1:10:52 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105724: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:17:48 PM

The vampires kept a very low-profile during the pre-Snap days, Vampire: The Masquerade-style, as a way of keeping themselves safe.

After the Snap, with the governments of the world losing their strength and socuety in general going down the drain, they started increasing their numbers and taking more overt actions now that there is less risk of them being hunted to extiction.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#105725: Jul 21st 2019 at 1:23:45 PM

Endgame has also given them an actual realistic way for there to be two Thors: Thor has Stormbreaker, while Jane has Mjolnir. Thor keeps his supremacy as the first Thor while Portman still gets the ability to be powerful.


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