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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105676: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:20:06 AM

Okay, so I hadn't seen the panel, and I might have gotten a bit confused about what exactly the movie would be about. This is a recording of the panel:

Coobalt-Dahonli-One Lurker Veteran from Meet me there, but only when I'm late Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Lurker Veteran
#105677: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:21:20 AM

[up][up] I'm sure Star-Lord could give him some dating advice.

...Wait, scratch that. He'd never hear the end of it.

Edited by Coobalt-Dahonli-One on Jul 21st 2019 at 11:21:35 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105678: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:26:04 AM

[up]Thor would be better off taking dating advice from Drax.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105679: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:26:52 AM

Drax is a great dancer!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105680: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:27:34 AM

Is Drax like the one guy who has had the least trouble with romance? I mean his wife got murdered but the relationship seemed strong otherwise

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105681: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:30:56 AM

Well, "misplaced in time" aside, Cap and Peggy always seemed the most stable of the bunch, followed by Tony and Pepper.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105682: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:44:34 AM

Hank and Jan were more stable than Tony and Pepper for all we know. Hard to imagine though.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#105683: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:45:55 AM

[up]Not defining Hank by a slap one time helped.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105684: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:49:45 AM

Thats true.

Although I more meant the thing about how Hank is ridiculously abrasive to everyone except Jan and Hope

Anyone that has ever met Hank separately and then met him when he was with Jan must have wondered if this was really the same guy.

Edited by Bocaj on Jul 21st 2019 at 11:50:52 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#105685: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:51:03 AM

Not even Hope. He alienated her so badly that she helped Cross take his company. They need Scott to help them repair their relationship.

Edited by M84 on Jul 21st 2019 at 11:51:46 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105686: Jul 21st 2019 at 8:52:09 AM

In the second one they're on great terms.

But good point. I forgot how badly they were estranged in the first one.

So like the only person he was ever a person to was Jan, young Hope before a certain point, and adult Hope after the first movie.

Edited by Bocaj on Jul 21st 2019 at 11:53:15 AM

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#105687: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:20:44 AM

Bocaj: Was thor ever about the thorne here? I got the feel he is happy ANYONE take the throne out of him because he never give a damn about it in the first place.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#105688: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:20:50 AM

I don't know if it's been mentioned here yet, but it's happened. Avengers Endgame has become the highest-grossing movie of all time.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#105689: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:24:18 AM

Maybe unsurprisingly, Blade won't be in Phase 4, but in Phase 5.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105690: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:24:51 AM

At the beginning of the first movie he’s about the throne

I don’t remember exactly when his opinion changed but definitely by the end of Dark World

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105691: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:26:19 AM

Take that, Avatar!

So, do you think we'll ever see the MCU get to this level again? It'd have to be a future Avengers movie to do it, but I don't know if they can ever build up this kind of hype a second time.

KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Interesting Person #928
#105692: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:31:30 AM

Well, that means Disney has just surpassed Disney. By adding a few more scenes to justify keeping the movie in theaters a bit longer. Sorry for being that kind of person, but this didn't feel that rewarding for me.

... And I'm much more fun than that at parties, I promise. [lol]

... And that's called jazz!
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105693: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:32:22 AM

Thor already figured out he wasn't a good fit for the throne by the end of the first film, in the second he realized he doesn't actually wants the damn thing in the first place, and that he's much better off just going on random adventures, saving people, maybe eloping with nice lady or two, who knows.

Edit: I love the MCU as much as the next guy, but the sheer amount of power Disney has over the entertainment industry makes this very much not a reason for celebration.

We're talking about a conglomerate that controls about a third of Hollywood, that's never a good thing.

Edited by HailMuffins on Jul 21st 2019 at 1:34:40 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105694: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:40:51 AM

Disney is not that big. Their movies tend to do well individually, but where they're lacking is in quantity. Of the one to two hundred or so movies released each year, Disney only releases about ten or so.

Coobalt-Dahonli-One Lurker Veteran from Meet me there, but only when I'm late Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Lurker Veteran
#105695: Jul 21st 2019 at 9:44:12 AM

[up] You seem to forget how much reach Disney has in television, resorts, sports, toys...

The list goes on. Movies are only the tip of the iceberg. The reason most people don't notice is because they're clever enough not to plaster their logo on everything they own; only those that fit with their brand image (or else they'd have renamed ESPN into Disney Sports).

Edited by Coobalt-Dahonli-One on Jul 21st 2019 at 12:54:02 PM

Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#105696: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:17:42 AM

With Shang-Chi getting a movie, it means only Longshot, Mort the Dead Teenager, Morbius the Living Vampire, and the Power Pack are the only movies left from the original deal with Artisan Entertainment who don't have movies.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105697: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:30:35 AM

Morbius is getting a movie with Sony.

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#105698: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:34:31 AM

So that means Longshot, Mort the Dead Teenager, and Power Pack are left.

I'm praying Power Pack gets some mainstream recognition sometime soon.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105699: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:37:39 AM

One of the producers of Guardians 2 said in 2017 that he would be overseeing a Power Pack project, and he also said it would be Spy Kids-esque in tone. That sounds perfect to me, and I can't wait for it to be announced.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#105700: Jul 21st 2019 at 10:42:05 AM

Something that disappoints me a little is that there will be no Young Avengers or Ant-Man 3.

I'd like to see Cassie Lang in her superhero costume.


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