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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#105576: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:26:04 PM

Random thought: use Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness as a way to bring Deadpool into the MCU.

At some point in there's a breach into numerous other universes that Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch lock down pretty quickly, but not before some things get through. On a serious level this could introduce the climactic fight of the movie. And maybe, if they want to go this route, could use it as a means to introduce Blade and the Vampires into the MCU (since it might be tricky to explain how they've gone unnoticed thus far).

But then in the second post credit scene, it's revealed that Deadpool and a few members of his supporting cast also made it into the MCU without anyone noticing.

Oh my god, that's exactly what I was thinking. surprised

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105577: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:29:32 PM

Really interesting how Marvel is leaning into the diversity angle they first started with Black Panther. In Eternals, out of eight characters, only two are white (Richard Madden and Lia McHugh). Shang-Chi will almost certainly have a majority Asian cast. And, of course, there's Blade.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#105578: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:30:14 PM

[up][up] To be clear, obviously they shouldn't write the movie as a vehicle to bring Deadpool into the MCU, but if a general multiverse breach is going to happen anyways...

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#105579: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:35:37 PM

So we only got the teeniest of teases for X-Men and Fantastic Four.

And yet, what did get announced blew me away by leaps and bounds. That takes skill. [tup]

And now I'm wondering if I should SERIOUSLY prepare for a Disney+ subscription...

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#105581: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:41:14 PM

Can't believe we're getting all this within the next 2 years alone.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105582: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:41:18 PM

Oh and Valkyrie is confirmed as Marvel's first LGBT superhero. "Kevin Feige confirmed, as Thompson herself teased during Love and Thunder’s unveiling, that Valkyrie will be involved in an LGBTQ storyline as Asgard’s new ruler seeks out a Queen to rule alongside her."

FUCK YES THANK YOU.

Edited by alliterator on Jul 20th 2019 at 7:41:48 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#105583: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:43:21 PM

It’s called the BI-frost for a reason. [lol]

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#105584: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:44:26 PM

Heh.

So we finally get to see what went down in Budapest.

So does that mean Jeremy Renner will also be in this movie then?

One Strip! One Strip!
Coobalt-Dahonli-One Lurker Veteran from Meet me there, but only when I'm late Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Lurker Veteran
#105585: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:44:41 PM

[up][up] Betting 50 dollars that joke ends up in the movie. [tup]

Edited by Coobalt-Dahonli-One on Jul 20th 2019 at 10:45:49 AM

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#105586: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:46:04 PM

Wasn't she already confirmed since before Ragnarok's release?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105587: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:47:21 PM

Wasn't she already confirmed since before Ragnarok's release?
Only through Word of God — this time, hopefully, we'll actually get to see something on-screen.

Nouct over the front from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
over the front
#105588: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:47:53 PM

They cut that scene out from Ragnarok tho

This sounds like it'll be a big part of the film's plot which is a lot different from just saying it's a thing in interviews

Edited by Nouct on Jul 20th 2019 at 7:48:40 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#105589: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:48:07 PM

[up][up]Only because a scene got deleted, thank you China...

Edited by Beatman1 on Jul 20th 2019 at 10:48:49 AM

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#105590: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:48:15 PM

[up]x4 There was a scene filmed that implied she was, but it never made it into the final cut of the movie.

This time around it sounds like it's not going to be something that even could be cut since it's one of the core themes of the movie.

Edited by Falrinn on Jul 20th 2019 at 10:48:27 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105591: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:51:27 PM

Video of Portman being handed the hammer:

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#105592: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:53:59 PM

Can the Mandarin be done without the character coming off as a Yellow Peril stereotype? Since that's allegedly why the did that twist in Iron Man 3.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#105593: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:55:28 PM

Portman being in Thor 4 is interesting. I'd think that she wouldn't want to come back after just playing bit parts for most of the Thor segments of the MCU.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#105594: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:56:06 PM

It probably helps she won't be playing a bit part this time.

Coobalt-Dahonli-One Lurker Veteran from Meet me there, but only when I'm late Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Lurker Veteran
#105595: Jul 20th 2019 at 7:56:46 PM

[up] Ike Perlmutter being gone probably has something to do with it.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#105596: Jul 20th 2019 at 8:03:47 PM

use Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness as a way to bring Deadpool into the MCU

Dr.Strange wouldn't be where you introduce someone like Deadpool though.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#105597: Jul 20th 2019 at 8:03:56 PM

[up]x5 Speaking strictly from my own limited perspective, I would say that avoiding Yellow Peril is less about how the Mandaren himself is portrayed and more about how the movie treats Asian characters overall. It's not a big deal if there's one highly traditionalist villain if he's one among many highly varied Asian characters.

[up] Not in the movie itself certainly. What I was suggesting was, if it's possible, to have Deadpool being brought into the MCU be an unintentional side effect of the events of Doctor Strange 2. Revealed only in the second post-credit scene (which is generally where the more comedic tags go), which is the only place where Deadpool appears.

Edited by Falrinn on Jul 20th 2019 at 11:07:33 AM

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#105598: Jul 20th 2019 at 8:05:04 PM

[up] 3x Ike might have prevented the MCU becoming a money making machine.

Just Makima.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#105599: Jul 20th 2019 at 8:07:19 PM

Mandarin has been executed very well in several more recent works. Writers have long gone past the Yellow Peril stereotype.

For a example, Mandarin: The Story of my Life (which is from 2010). Which incidentally also has a heroic Asian protagonist (Iron Man actually doesn't show up in the story itself).

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Coobalt-Dahonli-One Lurker Veteran from Meet me there, but only when I'm late Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Lurker Veteran
#105600: Jul 20th 2019 at 8:08:30 PM

I'm sorry to bring that back, but I just can't stop thinking about that Blade announcement. Mahershala Ali is a pitch-perfect casting choice, but I feel nervous they'll leave Snipes out cold.

C'mon Marvel; he said he was open to reprising his character! Least you could do is give him a new one as a Consolation Prize.


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