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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#105326: Jul 17th 2019 at 8:14:32 PM

[up]X4

Ok. I laughed.[lol]

One Strip! One Strip!
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#105327: Jul 18th 2019 at 9:06:33 AM

CBR posted a list of characters they want to see in Thor 4:

  • Enchantress
    • Well, she is one of Thor's peskier Rouges and we did see her sister in AOS. I think her time is nigh.
  • Beta Ray Bill
    • He was cool in EMH, but what are you gonna do with Bill if Thor has Stormbreaker?
  • Ares
    • Don't know enough of Marvel's Ares for a strong response. tongue
  • Hercules
    • We're still not sure if Herc IS in The Eternals, but I would not oppose to seeing them bicker. evil grin
  • The Silver Surfer
    • This gave me pause because I always thought the Surfer would appear in something like GOTG Vol. 3 or something, but the more I thought about it, the more I'm thinking maybe introducing him in Thor 4 is just as good an idea?

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#105328: Jul 18th 2019 at 9:09:24 AM

[up]I most definitely want Beta Ray Bill and Enchantress to show up, they're two of my favourite characters^^

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105329: Jul 18th 2019 at 9:09:31 AM

There was a fairly good arc of the comics which unfortunately was largely intended to be part of snapback after Simonson’s run where Thor fights tooth and nail with everything he has and more to try to stop a Celestial from destroying a half innocent planet

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105330: Jul 18th 2019 at 9:26:13 AM

Ares and Enchantress are unlikely to show up under those names as DC already had films with characters,sucks but thats life for you

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105332: Jul 18th 2019 at 9:28:53 AM

All roads lead to the end.

It is the way of the warrior.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#105333: Jul 18th 2019 at 9:33:21 AM

Since they know it’s going to be the last one I hope they work during the five year time jump

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123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#105334: Jul 18th 2019 at 11:38:08 AM

I'm still hoping Stark made an autobiography before his demise, and named it A Cheap Trick and a Cheesy One Liner.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#105335: Jul 18th 2019 at 1:47:30 PM

I'm sure Tony did have plenty of time to do that.

The legend has returned.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#105336: Jul 18th 2019 at 2:47:08 PM

There was a fairly good arc of the comics which unfortunately was largely intended to be part of snapback after Simonson’s run where Thor fights tooth and nail with everything he has and more to try to stop a Celestial from destroying a half innocent planet

I have a single issue of that one.

One Strip! One Strip!
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#105337: Jul 18th 2019 at 4:18:04 PM

For Thor 4 I'd suggest Gorr the God-Butcher. Hela took some of his traits, but otherwise I think the idea of a god-killer setting out to finish off the Asgardians for good after their whole upheaval would be interesting.

Toss Beta Ray Bill and Marvel's Hercules in it and we have a real party.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105338: Jul 18th 2019 at 4:25:27 PM

Eh. The God-Butcher arc is more well-known for how it pairs up Young Thor, Medium Thor, and Old King Thor together. Gorr himself is...kind of bland.

If they need a new enemy for Thor to fight, I would love it if they used the Mangog. The Mangog is such a cool character — the living hatred of "a billion billion beings" — that I would love to see him in live-action. Hell, throw in Ulik the Rock Troll, too.

Also, let's bring back Hela as the Actual Ruler of the Underworld.

Edited by alliterator on Jul 18th 2019 at 4:27:22 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105339: Jul 18th 2019 at 4:28:17 PM

Plus the whole God-Butcher stuff is pretty dark which won't exactly mix well the lighter tone & Wakiki's brand of New Zealand humor.

Like there's supposed to be an honest to God actual sense of fear & terror dervied from facing Gorr, especially for Old-Thor who is stuck waging a forever war alone against the armies of darkness.

There shouldn't be much comedy with him.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 18th 2019 at 4:29:32 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105341: Jul 18th 2019 at 6:23:55 PM

Yeah, honestly, Jormungandr is the one thing that feels missing from Norse mythology in the Thor films, and how cool would it be for Thor to have a fight a planet-sized snake?

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 18th 2019 at 6:24:09 AM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#105342: Jul 18th 2019 at 6:27:11 PM

My vote for Thor 4 would be a true Asgardians of the Galaxy with Thor, Valkyrie, Korg, Miek, Sif, Throg, and Kid Loki.

Edited by LordVatek on Jul 18th 2019 at 9:29:24 AM

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105343: Jul 18th 2019 at 6:28:07 PM

Throg Frog of Thunder really would be the dream.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105344: Jul 18th 2019 at 6:46:29 PM

[up]Now there's something for the animated What If? to do. Get to work, Disney!

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#105345: Jul 18th 2019 at 7:15:39 PM

What about Cat Thor?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#105346: Jul 18th 2019 at 7:19:19 PM

Gorr would be a bit redundant anyway since MCU Hel was partially based on him. Her power-set in the movie is taken directly from Gorr's (or rather All-Black the Necro-sword's) powers.

Introducing Odin's evil brother Cul Borson would also be a tad redundant, since the whole "evil long lost relative of Odin" thing was already done with Hel.

Yeah, MCU Hel has little aside from appearance in common with comics Hel.

Edited by M84 on Jul 18th 2019 at 10:22:57 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105347: Jul 18th 2019 at 7:21:03 PM

Ironic.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#105348: Jul 18th 2019 at 7:22:16 PM

[up]*7: There's that really awesome, iconic splash page from the comics of Thor facing down Jormungandr, and it's always felt like a missed opportunity not to recreate that in the MCU.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 18th 2019 at 7:22:43 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#105349: Jul 18th 2019 at 7:23:02 PM

Thor facing Jormungandr would be cool, but it would lack the sense of dread that it had in the original comics. The truly scary thing about Jormungandr was that he was part of the Ragnarok cycle. No matter what Thor did, as long as Ragnarok was a thing, he would always be fated to die fighting against Jormungandr.

But in the MCU, Ragnarok has already happened, and it doesn't seem to be a cycle or anything.

Disgusted, but not surprised
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#105350: Jul 18th 2019 at 8:45:59 PM

I dont like ragnarok for plenty of things and not having a jormungader vs Hulk is probably one of those thing I will forever blame the movie for not giving to me.

I mean I feel thor lack this EPIC element around him, being stuck as sort of comedy role with the avenger and ragnarok double down on it.

Infinity war is pretty much the best thor movie.

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