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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#105276: Jul 17th 2019 at 4:29:03 AM

[up][up]The source material is still relevant, considering the way fans pitch a fit if the characters aren't as accurate as possible. And when part of that involves the physiques typically seen in superhero comics...

Yes, there's a difference between drawing an unrealistic physique and pressuring people into fitting an unrealistic physique. The point is that the source material is, well, the source of the unrealistic physiques in the case of superhero movies.

Edited by M84 on Jul 17th 2019 at 7:32:02 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#105277: Jul 17th 2019 at 5:00:43 AM

I can only imagine what hell will be unleashed if they make a Power Girl movie and whatever poor actress they choose isn't as busty as the character.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#105278: Jul 17th 2019 at 5:10:45 AM

Have they any other time? It seems to be rather common, I think this site even has a trope for it.

Edited by Cross on Jul 17th 2019 at 8:38:27 AM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#105279: Jul 17th 2019 at 5:12:34 AM

"Wahh Spider-Woman's actress can't rotate her spine 180 degrees so that her ass and boobs are both facing the camera!" ~Someone in the future, probably.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 17th 2019 at 6:13:41 AM

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#105280: Jul 17th 2019 at 5:24:59 AM

I still can't believe Disney genetically mutated Bradley Cooper into an actual raccoon to play Rocket.

shackwave Ultraman Omega from Nebula M78 Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Ultraman Omega
#105281: Jul 17th 2019 at 5:30:00 AM

And turned Vin Diesel into a tree!

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#105282: Jul 17th 2019 at 5:33:44 AM

I can. It's called "method acting".

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#105283: Jul 17th 2019 at 6:11:49 AM

I'm curious how in the hell Mark Ruffalo can turn into the not-so-jolly green giant on command.

The legend has returned.
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#105285: Jul 17th 2019 at 7:13:16 AM

Next you'll be telling me Josh Brolin isn't a giant grape who wants commit genocide to solve resource scarcity and may or may not want to have sex with Death.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#105286: Jul 17th 2019 at 7:16:21 AM

[up]I’m just thinking of that SNL skit where Thanos said he was gonna get off the HGH now that filming was done.

So yeah, abs are hard. 80’s ultra-cut bodybuilder bodies aren’t natural, but one could see that comparing the look of a strongman to that of a bodybuilder.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#105287: Jul 17th 2019 at 7:58:16 AM

[up] Especially when you get nicknames like "Swole Grimace."

(SNL reference)

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#105288: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:16:14 AM

So, apparently if Spider-Man: Far From Home doesn't break a billion dollars, Sony regains full control of Spider-Man and all related characters and concepts. Now, given the movie's current performance we don't have to worry about that, but that does beg the question— what will happen when Marvel's deal with Sony eventually expires?

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#105289: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:20:49 AM

I don't know, but if what you are saying about Far from Home is true, does that mean the next MCU Spider-man film (or any future MCU Spider-man film) has to make at least a billion?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#105290: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:35:13 AM

[up] No clue. For all we know, Marvel and Sony could extend the deal indefinitely.

Heck, maybe FFH's performance will go so far as to convince Sony to ditch their Venomverse altogether.

No one would blame them since A) Venom got dunked on by critics and got audiences' attention for all the wrong reasons and B) we've heard virtually zilch about Morbius and there seems to be no hype whatsoever for it.

Again, no one knows.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105291: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:35:31 AM

I'd like a source on that claim pretty please

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#105292: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:37:56 AM

[up]Ditto.

And Venom made way too much for them to not do another. I know some people want the Venom vs Spidey movie but odds are Venom will be back on screen as his own thing for a while.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105293: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:38:27 AM

So, apparently if Spider-Man: Far From Home doesn't break a billion dollars, Sony regains full control of Spider-Man and all related characters and concepts.
Sony already has full control of Spider-Man and all related characters and concepts. They control everything (except merchandising and TV rights). They just made a deal with Disney so that Marvel would help them make the film and Marvel could use the character in their own films.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#105294: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:40:28 AM

[up][up][up] The billion dollar claim?

Here's one.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 17th 2019 at 1:40:43 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105295: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:42:29 AM

If it doesn't clear a billion, Sony can break the deal, but I doubt they will — the MCU Spider-Man movies have made far more than Sony's Amazing Spider-Man and Sony still gets to keep all of that.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105296: Jul 17th 2019 at 10:49:51 AM

[up]So basically Marvel is a creative consultant who gets to borrow Sony's toys every once in a while?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#105297: Jul 17th 2019 at 12:48:55 PM

Guys, they didn't turn Bradley Cooper into a raccoon, that's just plain silly. He only provides the voice.

They turned Sean Gunn into a raccoon, after also cloning his human form so he can play Kraglin simultaneously.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#105298: Jul 17th 2019 at 12:50:58 PM

Carol's powers aren't CGI, Brie Larson can just do that naturally.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105299: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:12:02 PM

[up]Bullshit, everyone knows it's actually Brie's twin sister Lisa who has super powers, but she can't act so they digitally put Brie in there.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#105300: Jul 17th 2019 at 1:16:21 PM

By that same token, Robert Downey Jr isn't smart enough to actually make a functioning Iron Man suit. We have the costuming department to thank for that metal suit which can fly and shoot laser beams.


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