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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#105151: Jul 14th 2019 at 3:31:02 PM

Personally I kinda hope Quill and Gamora will not get together all over again. I have no fondness for this couple.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#105152: Jul 14th 2019 at 3:44:55 PM

I wonder if the writers know that and will do just that.

I mean, I don't mind him earning her respect (after many beatings) but them getting together is something I also don't think should happen.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105153: Jul 14th 2019 at 4:47:09 PM

I wouldn't mind, but I feel without a very good script not only it might feel like a rehash of the first film, but it wastes a perfect opportunity to develop Quill.

Learning how to let go is a part of adulthood, after all, and as someone who lost so much so young he has understandable issues with doing that.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105154: Jul 14th 2019 at 5:04:34 PM

They’re essentially two halves of the same story. Neither is complete without the other.
Ehhhhh, not really. Nothing in Endgame depends on Infinity War and the only thing Infinity War depends on Endgame is a resolution to the Downer Ending. But just having a Downer Ending doesn't make Infinity War the first half of Endgame.

Just imagine of Infinity War and Endgame were put together and screened as one movie, instead of two. The first half would all be about trying to stop Thanos and failing...but then the second half would include a totally unexpected five year timeskip and then a completely different plot about going backwards in time to find the Infinity Stones.

That's what I mean about Infinity War and Endgame not being two parts of a whole film. They aren't: they have fundamentally different plots. You could move the opening of Endgame to the end of Infinity War and just leave it like that and the movie would be done. Thanos: dead. Half of the universe: also dead. A Downer Ending doesn't necessarily mean that it's a cliffhanger (even though IW does have a cliffhanger, it's, again, resolved very, very quickly in EG).

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#105155: Jul 14th 2019 at 5:05:05 PM

100% in agreement with the value in a story about learning to let go. If that's what Gunn goes with, I'll be very satisfied.

But I've been burned too many times by the prevalence of "ONE TRUE LOVE" in media to expect it.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#105156: Jul 14th 2019 at 5:49:12 PM

I do think that's where Peter is going.

Him holding on to past things (or losing something in the worst way which facilitates said holding on to the past) is a big thing with him.

The death of his mom, finding his dad, losing his real dad, osing Gamora, etc. The guy's dealt with a lot of shit, because he either finds something and has it ripped from him or doesn't realize how important it was until it's gone.

I think that, if the writers are smart, they'll have Gamora (unintentionally) help him realize that. Him learning to accept that the woman he knows is gone will be a big step for him.

And then, after he spends the vast majority of his life in prison (or some deep dank pit) for helping destroy the universe, he can have some peace.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105157: Jul 14th 2019 at 6:03:24 PM

100% in agreement with the value in a story about learning to let go. If that's what Gunn goes with, I'll be very satisfied.
Gunn has shown in his films that he's pretty good at subverting expectations. I still remember in Slither, where a grenade was set up as a Chekovs Gun...and then when it was used, it was completely useless.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#105158: Jul 14th 2019 at 6:28:49 PM

Even during Endgame, I figured the search for Gamora would basically boil down to "I (Quill), Nebula, and the rest of the team came to see your other self as a family. She and I were in love, too. There was something about us all together that made us a family. We know you're not the same person, but we at least want to see if there is any of that family still here, with you. We know there may be something, based on how quickly you were willing to trust our Nebula. Even your Nebula didn't do that."

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#105159: Jul 14th 2019 at 6:36:01 PM

Yeah, Gamora will probably return to be close to Nebula, rather than to be close to Quill.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#105160: Jul 14th 2019 at 6:58:11 PM

I'm fine with that.

And I can even buy that Quill is capable of that kind of speech. Guy can be pretty insightful when he's not being....Peter Quill.

That rare 5% of insightfulness can is beautiful.

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#105161: Jul 14th 2019 at 7:29:12 PM

Being capable of moments of genuine empathy and insight only to serve as his very own Moment Killer is what Quill is all about. There's a genuinely effective and probably heroic leader in there somewhere but it's easier for him to resort to his man-child persona.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105162: Jul 14th 2019 at 7:32:13 PM

Its interesting how in the comics he's also a fuck-up but a different kind of fuck-up.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#105163: Jul 14th 2019 at 7:38:07 PM

[up][up]He's certainly afraid of taking up responsability.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#105164: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:21:09 PM

I find it amusing that Rocket's now been an Avenger for longer than he's been a Guardian of the Galaxy.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#105165: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:23:19 PM

And heck, by all means, Rocket is actually the most adult and responsible of the group now, besides Nebula.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#105166: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:28:30 PM

It also handily confirms that Rocket is not an uplifted Earth racoon, since he's been around far longer than the projected 2~3 year lifespan of an actual racoon.

Unless whatever was done to him actually increased his lifespan.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#105167: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:30:43 PM

wild mass guessRocket died and was replaced with a Skrull.wild mass guess

Note: in captivity raccoons can live for up to 20 years.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 14th 2019 at 8:32:28 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#105168: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:34:56 PM

So can Chilean rose-hair tarantulas, if anyone's looking for a long-lived but low-maintenance pet.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#105169: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:45:16 PM

Ok one question since I havent seen endgame.....

what the hell happen to valkire?.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105170: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:46:06 PM

She's mayor of New Asgard.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#105172: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:53:59 PM

I'll call her the Mayor-King cause that sounds funny. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#105175: Jul 15th 2019 at 6:23:39 AM

Someone did an edit of Deadpool camoing in Civil War,its pretty good actually

have a listen and have a link to my discord server

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