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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It did divide them which I think means it did ok without killing anyone
The death of Bill Foster in the comics was beyond gratuitous
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
I disagre, sure i divided but I dont feel it have a big impact in the end, a think and issue is that each movie bring a new status quo that the other movie wash away to bring another big change status so there is not room to breath.
Tony Stark's Snappening words
were originally going to be: "F*** off, Thanos".
"I am Iron Man" was a last minute reshoot
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On one hand, "F***k off, Thanos" is what the audience was thinking after the purple fathead snapped half of everything away (including our boi Spider-Man).
On the other hand, "And I am Iron Man" has a nice book ends feel to it. Tony's superheroing really started the second he said "I am Iron Man" in Iron Man 1, so it's fitting to bring back those same words when he ends it all. Furthermore, saying that after Thanos' "I am inevitable" can also be seen as Tony basically saying "So what? I'm the guy that just outsmarted you."
So I guess I'm glad they went with the latter.
"F*ck off, Thanos," would have felt Narmy to me. As a Pre-Mortem One-Liner, it's super-lame. Not a great line to culminate ten years of storytelling. All it really has going for it is the monocle-popping presence of an F-bomb in a Disney movie, but that effect takes the audience out of the scene and makes them focus on the word "F*ck" instead of on what's happening. That's fine for a wacky joke, but this is one of the most important moments in Marvel cinematic history.
Like, I'm stunned that anyone ever thought that was a good idea. The fact that it was a last-minute change boggles the mind.
"I am Iron Man" works better on so many levels. It's Tony's answer to Infinity War's "I hope they remember you" Worthy Opponent speech. Instead of a lame Pre-Mortem One-Liner, Tony matches Thanos's Badass Boast, "I am inevitable," with a book-end paying homage to that shocking twist ending that started it all. This minimalist retort carries a profound effect; the implication between the boasts that "Iron Man > Inevitability" does more to build up Tony leading into his Snap than an awkward F-bomb ever could have.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 13th 2019 at 7:50:32 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I'd describe it as having to do with cleverness here. I'd compare it to sword fighting in Monkey Island games, which parody movie sword fights that have a lot of dialogue by having the results of the fight determined solely through dialogue.
Let's say you're in a sword fight with an enemy pirate, and your opponent says one of the following: "I hope you have an escape boat ready", "You fight like a dairy farmer", or "I've never bled in battle before". The appropriate response would not be "fuck off". It would be, respectively "Why? Do you need one?", "How appropriate, you fight like a cow", and "You run that fast?"
"I am Iron Man" is the "How appropriate, you fight like a cow" response for this situation.
Leviticus 19:34Stark: "I am Iron Man. And iron is invincible. It never rusts or erodes."
thanos: "Actually-"
Stark: "Not after this!" *SNAP*
Edited by fredhot16 on Jul 13th 2019 at 7:03:48 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Someone I knew always said that cursing was the sign of someone who didn’t have anything better to say. In most cases in writing, that’s kind of the point. Here, the greatest intellect on the planet would have a better Pre-Mortem One-Liner.
"I am inevitable" -sad thunk-
"Yeah, well, that's just your opinion, man"
Edited by Bocaj on Jul 13th 2019 at 10:08:40 AM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersEdited by alliterator on Jul 13th 2019 at 7:57:39 AM
It was actually the other way around. When Black Sabbath wrote the song they had to run by Marvel to make sure they wouldn't be sued by them, which they did so by making the lyrics clear in that he's not the same character as the Marvel hero. Which is why the song tells a entirely different story (it tells the story of a time-traveler who sees a future in ruins, goes back in time to stop it, but the process deforms him and gets ocstrasized from society for his deformities, leading to him causing said apocalypse as a revenge).
Ironically, despite the explicit differentiation between the song and character, the lyrics can still be interpreted to fit Iron Man (particularly his arc in the first film).
Edited by Gaon on Jul 13th 2019 at 8:45:19 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."That has got to be one of the rarest sentences I've ever heard. ![]()
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Rhodey's still War Machine even though he's crippled from the waist down. I think Bruce will get a cool prosthetic arm or something.
The legend has returned.