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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Fun fact: Marvel actually has an Expy of the Doctor, called Professor Gamble
, who first showed up in a kooky Power Man & Iron Fist story (complete with Captain Ersatz Daleks).
Rescue left me with mixed feelings. Like a lot of Endgame, it felt awesome and satisfying on a superficial level, but hollow on reflection.
When it happened, I was just like "F*CK YES!!! WHOO!!!" I've been wanting Pepper to get the Rescue armor forever, and I was pretty mad at Iron Man 3 for failing to do that. Like, Tony's making a f*ckton of suits explicitly to protect Pepper and doesn't pay a single thought to making a suit that she's supposed to wear? That's ridiculous.
So. Yeah. Was thrilled to see Rescue show up.
But. Also. Like. The last time we saw Pepper prior to Endgame, she was chastising Tony for his new Arc Reactor. She has always resented the Iron Man suit. For pretty much her entire character history, Marvel's used her as the nagging girlfriend archetype; supportive where needed, but also entirely willing to make her displeasure over him being a superhero known at every opportunity. Hell, they've even broken up over it.
There is no way in Hell that Pepper "If you wanted kids, you wouldn't have done that" Potts stepped into an Iron Man suit of her own volition. Not without the narrative cheating of just having her show up, no questions asked, and never addressing it.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 12th 2019 at 8:44:39 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.The narrative did cheat.
Don't forget, five years had passed and they'd had a child together. She got to see Tony's regret over failing (though he may have pushed passed it) and he was already making her the suit before hand (the helmet that Morgan was playing with).
Also, she was the one who convinced him to even get involved in the Time Heist in the first place after he admitted he figured it out. She'd clearly come to accept that side of him after so long.
So yeah, she decided welp! Since this was my idea, might as well strap on my Sunday best! And boom! Rescue to the Rescue.
Someone get me a mic to drop!
It's the battle for the fate of the freaking universe. Thanos was going to destroy everything she and everyone held dear.
Also, earlier in the movie, she has made peace with the fact that Tony was going to get himself involved no matter what, and she supported that wholeheartedly. Pepper has had some character development since the last time we saw her.
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I feel that was adequately addressed within Endgame itself. During her conversation with Tony she encouraged him to pursue time travel, having apparently made her peace with Tony's obsessions. Probably in part because Tony proved he could balance his obsessions with living a normal life in the long term.
She's hardly the only character to undergo major development in the five year timeskip, and isn't even the most drastic example.
Regarding Shang-Chi, Ronny Chieng has a pretty good suggestion.
Edited by alliterator on Jul 12th 2019 at 9:25:48 AM
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So anyway, it looks like San Diego Comic Con kicks off this coming Thursday (or Wednesday). Anyone nervous about what'll be on the horizon?
The Russo Brothers have been teasing a big announcement on Friday 7/19
at 11am.
It's probably nothing to do with Marvel though, right?
It's pretty funny to think that the Avengers only lost 4 members all in all (and only 3 of them died; the last one is complicated).
From a purely utilitarian position (though I may be using the wrong word), they came out of Infinity War / Endgame pretty well.
Only the Guardians came out better, regaining the one member they couldn't get back (though in an unexpected way, and gaining two new members in Thor and Nebula, the latter of whom was already practically one of them).
One Strip! One Strip!No, you used the right word. Utilitarian basically means "the happiness of the many outweighs the happiness of the few". From a utilitarian point of view, the Avengers losing only four people is much better than if they had lost much more people.
Of course, it's a flawed ideology, since it completely condones large groups of people exploiting smaller groups of people, but that's neither here nor there.
They might have lost the Hulk as a physical brawler, depending how permanent the damage to his arm is.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."

We need of list of characters that are somehow canon in Marvel that shouldn’t be. Like how Death’s Head origin involves both the Transformers and Doctor Who (specifically the Seventh Doctor).
Edited by Beatman1 on Jul 12th 2019 at 9:42:52 AM