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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#104701: Jul 6th 2019 at 5:55:43 PM

One day MORE
PETER: One day more!
Another day, another destiny.
This never-ending road to Calvary;
These men who seem to know my crime
Will surely come a second time.
One day more!

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#104702: Jul 6th 2019 at 7:54:00 PM

I'm rarely a fan of giant monster vs smaller person fights. So the Elemental fights didn't do much for me.

Kaze ni Nare!
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#104703: Jul 6th 2019 at 11:19:51 PM

Is it unpopular to say I'm not really a fan of how the Kree have been used so far in the MCU? That's not a critique about comic book loyalty or anything, I just... don't find them that interesting.

Edited by GNinja on Jul 6th 2019 at 6:21:03 PM

Kaze ni Nare!
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104704: Jul 6th 2019 at 11:39:07 PM

[up]Eh, not much to say about them. They have been used as the typical alien evil empire.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#104705: Jul 7th 2019 at 4:06:28 AM

If the Skrulls get to be more sympathetic and nuanced than usual then we need something to contrast that against, and the Kree drew the short straw there. I don't honestly recall the Kree in general being all that interesting anyway compared to the Skrulls or Shiar (if they decide to use those now).

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#104706: Jul 7th 2019 at 4:45:47 AM

Space invaders eventually blur into each other, so far there isnt many diference between the kree and chitauri for example, they need to give the kree a hat or a least something that make diferent from space assholes.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#104707: Jul 7th 2019 at 6:09:15 AM

In agents of shield it’s that the Kree have been dicking around with Earth for a while

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104708: Jul 7th 2019 at 7:50:45 AM

I still do kinda hope to see at least some Kree being good guys, if just to avoid Always Chaotic Evil.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#104709: Jul 7th 2019 at 7:51:15 AM

There was Mar-Vell, but, ya know...

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#104710: Jul 7th 2019 at 7:53:53 AM

In the original comics material at least, the Kree did get some nuance. But overall they were still a bunch of genocidal assholes.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104711: Jul 7th 2019 at 8:12:50 AM

[up][up]... Right, sorry. I tend to forget she was a Kree too, and because unfortunately she dies. But yeah, the fact she exists proves at least some Kree are good people.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#104712: Jul 7th 2019 at 8:17:49 AM

There was a good Kree in Agents of SHIELD

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#104713: Jul 7th 2019 at 8:35:43 AM

I just realized, we never did get to see a Kree Sentry.

Though unless the Kree end up as villains for more than one series, that's ship has probably sailed. Unless they're even more powerful than warships, Carol can make mincemeat out of them at this point.

It'd be like introducing Sentinels so they can try and take on the Phoenix.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104714: Jul 7th 2019 at 8:42:49 AM

Well, it appears space will play an important part in the next phase, so I think it's safe to say we'll see more of the Kree.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#104715: Jul 7th 2019 at 8:44:24 AM

I dunno if we'll be seeing them as major villains, though. Minor villains and characters, maybe, but...

Something really needs to change in order for them to be a physical or emotional challenge for Carol in her future films, plus we already know Guardians is skewing towards whatever direction Adam Warlock is going to take them, and Eternals is almost certainly not going to deal with them what with having to introduce their own mythos.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 7th 2019 at 9:00:45 AM

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#104716: Jul 7th 2019 at 10:54:23 AM

You'd think someone called the Supreme intelligence would have a few good tricks up their sleeve. XD

Kaze ni Nare!
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104717: Jul 7th 2019 at 11:02:09 AM

[up]Maybe she's only intelligent compared to the rest of the Kree :p

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#104718: Jul 7th 2019 at 11:02:24 AM

I think the easiest route would be to make The Supreme Intelligence the central antagonistic force from now on. The Battle in the Center of the Mind between Carol and the Intelligence felt like the sort of inconclusive duel you build up more on a sequel.

Edited by Gaon on Jul 7th 2019 at 11:02:49 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#104719: Jul 7th 2019 at 11:20:50 AM

Another stupid idea for the next Avengers/teamup/crossover movie: Captain Universe.

Basically, involving a godlike alien entity possessing random people (including several heroes) for what turns out to be a virtuous cause of monumental importance, but the heroes don't know that and the entity isn't great at communication and people just assume those who were previously possessed and claim they weren't doing evil things are mind controlled or something (since invading aliens - even technically invading - kind of freak MCU humans out something fierce these days) - so they go from fighting against it and its odd machinations at first to fighting with it against its foe towards the end.

Better yet, the whole thing would be from the perspective of the heroes, not Captain Universe himself, so the movie feels like something akin to The Thing and the twist would thus be that it's not.

My other idea for a Captain Universe movie is like one of those 80's kid hero movies where the kid gets chosen to wield great power to save the universe, but has to let it go in the end, like The Last Starfighter.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 7th 2019 at 11:25:41 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#104720: Jul 7th 2019 at 1:22:06 PM

A thought, would Kraven’s Last Hunt be feasible in the MCU?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104721: Jul 7th 2019 at 1:49:32 PM

[up]We'd need to introduce Kraven first.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#104722: Jul 7th 2019 at 3:29:59 PM

[up] And last we checked, Sony seems to be dead set on making a solo movie for Kraven apparently set in their shared universe with Venom...

...yay. tongue

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#104723: Jul 7th 2019 at 3:46:59 PM

We need to collectively shank Sony so they'll just let go of Spiderman completely.

I mean, trying to make a Spiderman universe without Spiderman is getting really annoying.

Just Stahp!

One Strip! One Strip!
ReynTime250 Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#104724: Jul 7th 2019 at 4:25:24 PM

[up] I don't think Venom was too bad tbh. But I didn't think it was good either. It lands in that weird case of either So Bad, It's Good or So Okay, It's Average for me.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#104725: Jul 7th 2019 at 4:35:23 PM

Oh, the interaction between Brock and the Symbiote was great in my opinion.

But to me, it's still stupid movie.

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