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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Should the Kree be Always Chaotic Evil cardboards?
In general, some were disappointed the Captain Marvel film largely did not explore the Kree society or make them more sympathetic than Always Chaotic Evil space fascists, since in the comics they have frequentely helped heroes like Nova and the Avengers in the storylines Annihilation (2006) and Infinity (2013) and they have cool giant robots and heroic characters like Noh-Varr, Ko-Rel, Bean and the Priests of Pama. Though, at least Wendy Lawson/Mar-vell was a purely heroic Kree. I mean, they turned the Skrulls into teddy bears just to make the Kree more hateful for Odin's sake.
We need a Star Trek VI like scenario where the Kree after the Snap are put in the position of needing to make peace wih the rest of the galaxy in order to survive with Carol having to re-evaluate her angry views on them in order to protect the peace.
The thing is that in the comics even though the Kree are enormous dicks they're still treated more sympathetically than the Skrulls, probably because the Skrulls are space lizard people.
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Which is weird when I saw capitan marvel, granted talos is hilarious and for me it was the start of the film.
"there was literally no point in the entire movie where I felt Loki was even remotelly a threat at all."
Realy? I feel the first part with the helicarrier was good and he turn the avengers against themselves, the climax on other hand barely have loki as one the chitauri show up he pretty much vanish unil he is krump by hulk.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"![]()
I guess Beauty Equals Goodness also applies to hostile alien races.
Loki is a non-action Big Bad, is good at manipulating, but you can not expect a final super battle against him.
That is, a guy who has problems to beat a super soldier, obviously will not be a rival to Hulk or Thor.
Speaking of Kraven's issue (two pages ago), there is no credible way to pose a threat to Spiderman, especially after what he did in the new movie.
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jul 4th 2019 at 5:16:29 AM
Another way to make Doom work is to make him Laughably Evil, but in a more dangerous Beware the Silly Ones sense.
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By this point, Peter must already be much stronger than a super soldier or suitless Black Panther, so I do not think he's a very big threat, even with that.
Anyway, in the third movie they can make Peter again a Jobber and thus Kraven will be able to give him problems.
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jul 4th 2019 at 5:29:11 AM
And?
Like seriously so Pete's strong, so what?
If they use Kraven they'll come up with whatever excuse to make him a Worthy Opponent in-universe whether it be physically augmenting himself, using dirty tactics, or just straight up poisoning Pete himself.
There's also that.
Edited by slimcoder on Jul 4th 2019 at 5:30:38 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."So I saw Spider-Man: Far From Home and it really played me like a goddamned fiddle with those last 2 scenes.
Now I REALLY need to know what's coming next. Do we know if Marvel will talk about Phase 4 at SDCC or D23?
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 4th 2019 at 8:35:40 AM
As I recall Peter never had trouble with the Shocker unless he’s taken by surprise
Forever liveblogging the AvengersFalcon has rather a lot more advanced weaponry than Vulture. You definitely wouldn’t see Vulture capable of taking on Thanos’ armies.
Though this all just feeds into the idea, which we probably shouldn’t anyway. Rigid adherence to a needless concept of power levels is a poor idea that isn’t going to do the MCU universe any favors.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 4th 2019 at 5:47:05 AM
Kraven has been finding ways to juice himself up with herbs to match Spider-Man for his entire character's history. Come on, now, this skepticism is a tad silly.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."

You could make Doom into someone who fundamentally wants to make his country better for his people, but is plagued by a Superiority Inferiority Complex that demands him to be the one unquestionably in charge.
Tipical Tragic Villain fair: someone destined for greatness that is constantly undermined by a character flaw he can't get rid off.