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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#104426: Jun 27th 2019 at 6:31:46 PM

Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?

I do bite my thumb but not at you sir

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#104427: Jun 27th 2019 at 7:56:18 PM

I hath let loose an arrow into Marvin’s cheek.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 27th 2019 at 7:57:10 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#104428: Jun 27th 2019 at 8:13:37 PM

I'm going to do a Victorian translation of the scene I mentioned because I don't really have anywhere else to do it.

  • Jules: (after stabbing through a couch) Mine apologies, good sir. Didst I break thy concentration? I meant not to do that. Please do continue. Thou were saying something about best intentions. Why art thou so downtrodden? ...Oh, thou hast finished! Please do allow me to retort. What does Marsellus Wallace look like?
  • Brett: Wha-what?
  • Jules: (smashes table) What country dost thou hail from?
  • Brett: What?
  • Jules: "What" is not a country mine ears have heard! Do they speak English in this so-called country of "What"?
  • Brett: What?
  • Jules: English, foozler! Dost thou speaketh it?!
  • Brett: Aye!
  • Jules: Then thou knowest the words that come forth from mine mouth!
  • Brett: Aye!
  • Jules: Describe what Marsellus Wallace looks like!
  • Brett: ...What? I—
  • Jules: (draws sword) Say what once more! Again! I dare thee once and again, flapdoodle! Say what one more vazey time!
  • Brett: H-he-he hails from Africa!
  • Jules: Continue!
  • Brett: He hast no hair upon his head!
  • Jules: Does he have the look of a yaldson about him?
  • Brett: What?
  • Jules: (swings his sword near his head) Does he look like a yaldson?!
  • Brett: Nay!
  • Jules: Then for what reason didst thou try to engage him like he was one?
  • Brett: I did not!
  • Jules: Aye, ye did! Aye, ye did, Brett! Ye tried to engage him, and Marsellus Wallace refuses to exchange swords with anyone aside from his beloved wife. Dost thou readeth the Bible, Brett?
  • Brett: Aye.
  • Jules: There is this verse that has been in my mind that this situation fitteth. Ezekiel 25:17? "And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them." (he and Vincent stab Brett in the stomach)

[down]True. I got them confused.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Jun 27th 2019 at 11:19:14 AM

The legend has returned.
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#104429: Jun 27th 2019 at 8:18:00 PM

Uhmm, Victorians didn't speak like that. I think you meant Elizabethian.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#104431: Jun 27th 2019 at 8:40:19 PM

This is why I am apprehensive about writing in different time periods.

The manner of speech.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#104432: Jun 27th 2019 at 8:49:36 PM

Not just grammar, but pronunciation and accents constantly change. My understanding is that Shakespearean English would sound almost like a French accent to modern ears.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#104433: Jun 27th 2019 at 8:50:54 PM

"Hwæt. We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodAmericans, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Jules Winnfield sceaþena þreatum,
monegum maegþum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas."

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 27th 2019 at 8:51:05 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#104434: Jun 27th 2019 at 10:19:44 PM

riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.

Sir Tristram, violer d'amores, fr'over the short sea, had passen- core rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war: nor had topsawyer's rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselse to Laurens County's gorgios while they went doublin their mumper all the time: nor avoice from afire bellowsed mishe mishe to tauftauf thuartpeatrick: not yet, though venissoon after, had a kidscad buttended a bland old isaac: not yet, though all's fair in vanessy, were sosie sesthers wroth with twone nathandjoe. Rot a peck of pa's malt had Jhem or Shen brewed by arclight and rory end to the regginbrow was to be seen ringsome on the aquaface.

The fall (bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonner- ronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthur- nuk!) of a once wallstrait oldparr is retaled early in bed and later on life down through all christian minstrelsy. The great fall of the offwall entailed at such short notice the pftjschute of Finnegan, erse solid man, that the humptyhillhead of humself prumptly sends an unquiring one well to the west in quest of his tumptytumtoes: and their upturnpikepointandplace is at the knock out in the park where oranges have been laid to rust upon the green since dev- linsfirst loved livvy.

Sorry, I thought we were posting gibberish.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#104435: Jun 28th 2019 at 6:40:28 AM

Looks like people think that the Black Widow movie will be set in 2017 based on the car Nat is seen driving in set photos

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#104436: Jun 28th 2019 at 7:22:14 AM

@Weirdguy 149: I for one appreciate it and thought it was hilarious.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#104437: Jun 28th 2019 at 7:39:03 AM

Re Marvel 1602, I loved the inclusion of Captain America as the "Native American" Rojhas (think I'm spelling that correctly).

I was reading Voltaire's L'Ingenue at about the same time as I first read the comic, and that similarly has a white guy who is culturally Native American (Huron in that case), and I've read at different points books about impostors between the 16th and 19th centuries claiming they were from various places and it working, because English people genuinely didn't know what people looked like elsewhere in the world, and could readily believe they were white.

So it's a quite period-appropriate touch.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104438: Jun 28th 2019 at 7:49:13 AM

Looks like people think that the Black Widow movie will be set in 2017 based on the car Nat is seen driving in set photos

... Uh. So it might not be a prequel exactly.

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#104439: Jun 28th 2019 at 7:53:02 AM

Has Marvel ever done something equivalent to 52 from DC? Where we skip forward an amount of time after a big event then make a story filling in the intervening time later?

Because surely there's stuff you could do within the period of the snap? Maybe that's what Black Widow will be. She was in charge of things during that 5 year period, right?

Edited by GNinja on Jun 28th 2019 at 2:55:47 PM

Kaze ni Nare!
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#104440: Jun 28th 2019 at 8:03:27 AM

Answering a very important question: Who runs the Avengers now?

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 28th 2019 at 9:04:05 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#104441: Jun 28th 2019 at 8:04:34 AM

Hah!

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#104442: Jun 28th 2019 at 8:13:44 AM

So it's a quite period-appropriate touch.

That it was done in the past doesn’t make it good like the story frames it.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 28th 2019 at 8:14:41 AM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#104443: Jun 28th 2019 at 8:44:53 AM

It has been a while since I read it.

I definitely understand that Mighty Whitey is a deeply problematic trope.

But it feels "authentically inauthentic" to me that a story with an Elizabethan setting and tropes would use it. And it kind of makes sense since he's Captain America. And that was pretty much the only way to have him American during this timeframe.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#104444: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:07:59 AM

He doesn't even really have that large a role in the story — so he never really comes across as Mighty Whitey.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#104445: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:13:38 AM

I'm guessing Rhodey's become mission control and is co-running the Avengers with Carol (who takes care of space) and Okoye (using Wakandan tech to monitor the Earth).

They're the only ones left in interest (Rocket and Nebula are now part of a team again, and I don't think the Guardians are going to be too concerned about Earth overall right now) who know how it worked in the five years, so it makes the smoothest transitions.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 28th 2019 at 9:15:47 AM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#104446: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:35:03 AM

ONLY make this visible if you have no problems with spoilers! I just learned a thing about Far From Home that made me squee with joy!

Alright, last warning....

J.K. Simmons is back as J. Jonah Jameson!!!!

[down]Sure, sorry^^

Edited by Forenperser on Jun 28th 2019 at 6:40:41 PM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#104447: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:36:26 AM

I think you mean Far From Home and you just made me want to see the film so much more, goddammit.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#104448: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:39:04 AM

As far as I know it's just a stinger, though there's something bigger.

Edited by Cross on Jun 28th 2019 at 12:39:55 PM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#104449: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:41:07 AM

Welp, guess I'm back to ignoring this thread for a few days... See ya later, all. evil grin

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#104450: Jun 28th 2019 at 9:48:53 AM

Alright, it’s official. Excellent.

The legend has returned.

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