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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#104326: Jun 26th 2019 at 2:55:27 AM

The Ultimatrix's "evolution" is also justified since it was specifically created to be a weapon, unlike the original Omnitrix which was meant to be a tool to promote understanding between races.

Disgusted, but not surprised
KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#104327: Jun 26th 2019 at 3:34:41 AM

Evolution is based on existing traits changing dominance due to various environment factors, including disasters that randomly impacts the local gene pool itself. Many powerful predatory animals ended up dying out because their habitat shifted and they couldn't find enough prey, that's why large canines the same size as lions died off. There is some precedence to developing traits external to strictly evolution (ie independent from family history), which is where the term mutation comes from. Funny enough, I can see how the distinction between evolution and mutation would make for a controversial argument In-Universe.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#104328: Jun 26th 2019 at 4:10:28 AM

And in both the main continuity and the Ultimate line, mutants aren't even natural. They are byproducts of genetic engineering. In the mainline it was done by the Celestials. In the Ultimate line it was done by the American government as part of the Super-Soldier project.

Disgusted, but not surprised
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#104329: Jun 26th 2019 at 4:28:12 AM

Fans really are the lowest of the low, sometimes. sad

[up]F*ck me, is there anything in the Ultimate line not related to a Super-Soldier program?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#104330: Jun 26th 2019 at 4:31:26 AM

[up] Not much.

Now you know another reason why the Ultimate line tanked.

Also apparently at least one reason why the poor girl is being harassed is that some people are somehow under the mistaken belief that she is playing Riri Williams despite the fact that the character is a completely different & unrelated person from the character she played.

WTF?

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 26th 2019 at 4:32:19 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#104331: Jun 26th 2019 at 6:11:37 AM

Possible first look at Taskmaster on the set of Black Widow[1]

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#104332: Jun 26th 2019 at 6:34:07 AM

[up]You sure that's not actually the sequel to the Power Rangers film?

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#104333: Jun 26th 2019 at 6:34:34 AM

[up][up]Freaking Tumblr. Leave her alone! She’s 7! She didn’t ask for this!

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#104334: Jun 26th 2019 at 6:35:18 AM

Tumblr aren't exactly the kind of people who would harass someone for being Riri. If anything it'd be the opposite.

Edited by AlleyOop on Jun 26th 2019 at 9:42:17 AM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104335: Jun 26th 2019 at 6:45:04 AM

wait, that's not seriously Taskmaster, is it? I mean, it looks even cheesier than his actual costume...

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#104336: Jun 26th 2019 at 7:13:33 AM

According to evolution, the sloth, half-blind, half-deaf, too slow to move above a crawl, is the fittest being in its ecosystem by being too boring for predators to bother it. [lol]

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104337: Jun 26th 2019 at 7:15:55 AM

[up]Really? Personally I always thought the best at evolution were Cockroaches. I mean, come on, they figured out the best trick to not get eaten: be as disgusting as possible! evil grin

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#104339: Jun 26th 2019 at 7:32:11 AM

[up][up][up]Sloths survive because they live in trees. That's it.

In their native environments there are no predators who is both big enough to eat a sloth and still lightweight enough to not cause the branches to collapse. There are some birds of prey who might go after sloths, and some big cats are good at leaping high enough to drag them from the branches, but that's pretty much it.

Sloths also survive because their lifestyles mean they are very good at conserving energy.

It takes more than raw strength to survive and thrive. Efficiency is what counts.

[up][up]Also tell that to the Emerald Jewel Wasp. Y'know, the wasps that take control of roaches by stinging them into submission, eating their antennae for blood, and then leading them back to their lairs so they can lay their eggs inside them. Which is followed by the larvae eating the roaches from inside out before bursting out full-grown.

Why yes, wasps were one of the inspirations for Xenomorphs.

That's one of the rules of nature: no matter how disgusting something is, there is something (or somethings) that have no qualms about eating it.

Roaches in fact have quite a few natural predators. Cats, wasps, centipedes, geckos, frogs, scorpions...

Edited by M84 on Jun 26th 2019 at 10:41:53 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#104341: Jun 26th 2019 at 7:48:33 AM

Isn't Mother Nature amazing?

Supposedly Darwin began to doubt the existence of a loving God after seeing wasps in action.

Here's the supposed quote:

I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.

And yes, there's video footage of the wasps doing that to roaches.

Edited by M84 on Jun 26th 2019 at 10:51:00 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#104342: Jun 26th 2019 at 7:52:31 AM

RE: MCU!Taskmaster:

Holy shirt, they might really bring in Taskmaster!

(A few minutes later...)

Thinking about it, yeah the mask looks pretty eh.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#104343: Jun 26th 2019 at 7:53:46 AM

Set photos always look terrible.

Special effects teams do a lot of work behind the scenes. Not just on the flashy superpowers but also on making costumes look less shitty, props look more believable, and America's Ass look tighter.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 26th 2019 at 8:54:40 AM

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#104344: Jun 26th 2019 at 7:53:51 AM

Other than X-Men and Fantastic Four film rights given to Fox; Hulk film rights to Universal; Spider-Man and Ghost Rider to Sony, who else acquired movie rights to Marvel properties?

EDIT: Got rid of "Getting back on-topic" because Targetmaster Joe and Tobias Drake beat me to the punch in doing so.

Edited by HallowHawk on Jun 26th 2019 at 10:55:10 PM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104345: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:01:55 AM

Also tell that to the Emerald Jewel Wasp. Y'know, the wasps that take control of roaches by stinging them into submission, eating their antennae for blood, and then leading them back to their lairs so they can lay their eggs inside them. Which is followed by the larvae eating the roaches from inside out before bursting out full-grown.

Fascinating.

More seriously, I knew about these Wasps, I just didn't realize they targeted Cockroaches. Thanks for the science lesson^^

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#104346: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:05:56 AM

I expect special effects to make it look better. Some more photos[1]

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#104347: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:15:48 AM

[up][up][up] I think Universal still holds distribution rights to Namor, although it's apparently a complicated issue that Marvel's still trying to work out.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#104348: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:16:22 AM

[up][up][up]I prefer nightmare fetishs to be more about horrifying human diseases, I have a genuine phobia of roaches.

[up][up]Fair enough, but you can bet we'll have plenty of mes mocking it.

Fans are whiners, it's in our nature.

Edited by HailMuffins on Jun 26th 2019 at 12:16:37 PM

Dhiruxide Since: Dec, 2016
#104349: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:17:26 AM

Speaking of evoltion, Kane's ultimate plan before the bullshit of an abomination that is Tiberian Twilight was to turn Earth into a tiberium hellhole and help humanity adapt to tiberium. Becoming stronger is just a side-effect. Well, he believes tiberium holds the key to the next stage of human evolution.

I think, it's been a while since I played Tiberian Dawn and Sun and Tiberium Wars.

It certainly would help humanity be able to traverse tiberium fields without succumbing to its effects or becoming visceroids

Edited by Dhiruxide on Jun 26th 2019 at 5:19:17 PM

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#104350: Jun 26th 2019 at 8:43:04 AM

So Taskmaster's gimmick is that he can mimic any skill he sees? (though not super powers) That's honestly one of the cooler powers to me. I hope it's done justice in the film.

Kaze ni Nare!

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