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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#104176: Jun 22nd 2019 at 9:21:54 PM

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Agreed.

So...Space Tornado?

Maybe Space Fart?

One Strip! One Strip!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#104177: Jun 22nd 2019 at 10:12:45 PM

I'm not sure how much can be done with him because he's essentially an Eldritch Abomination and can only be paused, never stopped.

Even the comics doesn't really do the "Galactus shows up and they have to fight to save the Earth plot" straight any more, because it's been done a billion times already - continuing to do it over and over again would just make the character tired, since it just emphasizes what makes him a Generic Doomsday Villain and files off the actually interesting nuance that should be on top of that (see also, what DC nearly did to Darkseid).

The best version of that "fight" recently done was when Squirrel Girl instead became BF Fs with him. It doesn't sound awesome, but it was. It really was.

But I feel like Galactus would have a ton of potential if you're using him while exploring the cosmic side of things. Like, one random thing I'd love in Captain Marvel 2 (that is, in the hypothetical situation the movie leaves Earth behind, which I don't entirely think it should, but that's a different conversation), if we see Carol exploring the cosmos and learning about the universe, is for her to meet Galactus. You could also do it with the Guardians or the Four, of course, but Carol is the one I kept thinking of for this simply by the nature of the scene.

She wouldn't fight him. Just meet him. Not as a major character or even a minor character, but as a moment - like the asteroid worm in Empire Strikes Back.

He's just... out there in space, as this huge, titanic humanoid thing that is so powerful it barely has a need to acknowledge the rest of the universe but for to feed, except perhaps for Carol but for a fleeting moment. She stumbles across him, and it'd be one of those scenes were the audience - especially comic book fans - expects Galactus to lash out or start a fight, and the anticipation builds and builds but... nothing happens.

And then maybe the story ends with him showing up to nom the Kree homeworld or something, which would be fine because they're all assholes.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 22nd 2019 at 11:47:47 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#104178: Jun 22nd 2019 at 10:32:25 PM

I definitely think that Galactus should be introduced, but the whole "he's coming to Earth to eat it" thing should be avoided. Like, perhaps he's eating a different planet and Carol tries to save the planet, but can't and can only end up evacuating people. It would be a low blow for Carol, since now she's encountering something that is immeasurably stronger than her — it's something she can't punch her way out of — and she has to contend with that fact. But also her helping more refugees would be interesting. Especially if they are the Kree — I mean, damn, if Captain Marvel 2 was about her helping Hala evacuate as it was being eaten by Galactus? And she has to put aside her emotions and help the very people who kidnapped and gaslit her because, hey, the general populace aren't evil, they are innocent. So she tries to fight Galactus, but can't, so recommends evacuation — but the Supreme Intelligence doesn't want to evacuate, so she has to lead the other Kree into evacuating and then the Kree themselves become refugees.

Goddammit, now I want this hypothetical movie in my head to be real.

(But also, I want Monica Rambeau and Kamala Khan in the movie, too. Perhaps they can tag along when Carol is asked by the Kree for help.)

Edited by alliterator on Jun 22nd 2019 at 10:33:45 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#104179: Jun 22nd 2019 at 11:57:43 PM

If the rumors of adapting the Ewing Ultimates are true, I can see them doing a straightforward adaptation of Galactus, followed by his transformation from the Devourer to the Lifebringer, then continuing forward with him as the Herald of Eternity.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#104180: Jun 22nd 2019 at 11:59:38 PM

God, seeing Eternity on the big screen would be...awesome in a very literal sense.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#104181: Jun 23rd 2019 at 1:44:10 AM

Seeing any of the Abstracts has been my dream since I saw the Celestials in Got G 1.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#104182: Jun 23rd 2019 at 2:36:58 AM

I think Spider-Man: Web of Shadows would be good MCU event movie. Lots of heroes and villains that could get symbiotized, and a good chance to introduce Agent Venom.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#104183: Jun 23rd 2019 at 4:58:28 AM

I was hoping for at least one of the abstracts would show up in Endgame or Infinity War,alas it was not to be

Edited by Ultimatum on Jun 23rd 2019 at 11:58:53 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#104184: Jun 23rd 2019 at 5:50:21 AM

I only really know the abstracts from the original Infinity Saga comics, but I really want Death to actually show up.

Give her a cameo in the Deadpool movies, why not?

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#104185: Jun 23rd 2019 at 7:02:56 AM

So I need to ask, why is Shades in Luke Cage so popular? This is a genuine question because I'd really like to like as many characters as I can.

I've warmed up to Mariah a lot. In fact, I really like the vast majority of Luke Cage's supporting cast. They're great. But I don't "get" Shades. I don't find him very intimidating, nor cool. I don't feel sorry for him, and he's not written to be hateable. It feels like there's clearly something compelling about him that I'm not seeing.

Kaze ni Nare!
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104186: Jun 23rd 2019 at 8:05:16 AM

[up]... He's popular? I didn't notice if he was.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#104187: Jun 23rd 2019 at 8:32:29 AM

I personally never quite understood Shades's popularity either, but it seems like his whole Enigmatic Minion shtick won a lot of people over due the ambiguity of his character.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Oirad Since: Oct, 2017
#104188: Jun 23rd 2019 at 9:40:58 AM

In Season 1 Shades was the only villain who remained calm e acted rationally and pragmatically across the entire season (dind't send someone flying from a roof like Cottonmouth, dind't kill someone in a fit of rage like Mariah, dind't act randomly like Diamondback), trying to work around Luke Cage and simply continue doing business as usual. Essentially, he was the Only Sane Man of the bad guys.

Season 2 Shades loses some of this characterization, at least to me, mostly because he actually falls in love with Mariah (at the end of Season 1 I thought he was just going along, not sure if I misread the scene or the plan changed between season), and (at least to me) is much less interesting.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#104189: Jun 23rd 2019 at 10:10:47 AM

[up]Well, who can blame him? Mariah is a sparkling conversationalist and looks pretty fine for a woman in her 60's.

Erm, assuming she's the same age as her actress, that is.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#104190: Jun 23rd 2019 at 2:33:42 PM

Also, there's just something Narm Charming about a guy who always wears sunglasses and styles himself entirely around that aspect.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jun 23rd 2019 at 5:33:53 AM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#104191: Jun 23rd 2019 at 3:32:02 PM

I think Spider-Man: Web of Shadows would be good MCU event movie. Lots of heroes and villains that could get symbiotized, and a good chance to introduce Agent Venom.

In theory, it may sound good, but it'd have to be like Civil War in that there are loads of changes from the source material. For starters, someone else would have to be Agent Venom because Flash can't.

We'd also need to establish a lot of things like the Symbiotes, and the Venom movie didn't exactly follow the MCU standard of being a financial AND critical darling.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#104192: Jun 23rd 2019 at 6:13:05 PM

Wait, are we talking about the video game Spider-Man: Web of Shadows? Because that was before Agent Venom was even a thing.

The game did give us Spider-Man tearing Wolverine in half, so... crossover?

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#104193: Jun 23rd 2019 at 6:27:38 PM

[up][up] Indeed, a lot of changes would be needed, and it could work for the better, as it did for Civil War.

As for MCU!Flash, How crazy would it be if his father name was also Flash, and he would be like in the comics, and become the MCU! Agent Venom? Could it work?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#104194: Jun 23rd 2019 at 7:06:24 PM

[up] Flash's name isn't actually Flash — it's Eugene Thompson. His nickname is "Flash" because in the comics, he was a football player and could run fast.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#104195: Jun 23rd 2019 at 7:24:20 PM

Or, for extra funny, in The Spectacular Spider-Man because when he was a kid he used to run around without pants a lot.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#104196: Jun 23rd 2019 at 8:35:57 PM

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Yeah. That was great.evil grin

One Strip! One Strip!
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#104197: Jun 24th 2019 at 6:13:27 AM

So, do we have any news about the next Phase yet?

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#104200: Jun 24th 2019 at 9:31:26 AM

The new version isn't out yet (and it's not technically an extended cut — the new scenes are only after the end-credits).


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