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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
The bullets do at least slow them down due the bullet kinetic impact. Shooting at the heroes sometimes works more as a delaying tactic to keep them at bay while you run. Shooting at their direction can also distract them as they get concerned about the (non bulletproof) civilians around them, depending on the setting.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."@Theokal 3 I don't want villains to win all the time either. I just... I don't get much enjoyment out of watching heroes be badass. I understand that it sometimes needs to happen for the sake of the plot, and so I can accept it, but it doesn't really do much for me. I don't feel good watching it, if that makes sense? No matter how much I understand something from a theorhetical standpoint, I can't force myself to feel enjoyment.
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I actually think I should clarify something. I'm known as the "villain" guy. But to be specific, It's probably more apt to call me the "antagonist" guy. My obsession is not with villains as in the people in fiction who do bad things. My obsession is with the narrative forces that stand against the main character and create the conflict. It's just that in most superhero stories that person also generally tends to be evil. So I actually adore L because he stands against Light, and I hate Light because he's a terrible person who's protected via the fact that he's the main character, ensuring he wins until at least the series finale.
Literally it's said in the first episode of this season why people shoot Luke Cage. "They have to know we tried." Presumably if whoever the bad dudes work for find out that they didn't even try to stop Luke, they're going to get killed.
My various fanfics.It's because Shooting Superman is still a thing.
I actually would have loved it if the bad guys hired someone like the Profile
to tell them exactly what to do when encountering Luke Cage. "No, no, more bullets won't do it. You gotta cut off of his oxygen, but then you make sure you're not close enough for him to hit. No, that's...that's just more bullets, again, not going to work. Agh, you guys aren't even listening to me, are you?"
Edited by alliterator on Jun 22nd 2019 at 5:16:54 AM
I honestly don't mind Shooting Superman as 1) I find it kinda amusing to watch and 2) there ARE people who aren't bulletproof, so it'd make sense that they continue using guns.
Well, to be fair, trying to strangle or asphyxiate him is way harder to do properly. You need either preparation or catching him by surprise.
Sidenote of me saying The Profile is a horribly underused character for a guy with such a nifty powerset, particularly when he'd make such a fantastic arch-enemy for the Moon Knight (rather than a occasional nuisance).
@G Ninja: It seems to me you only get enjoyment out of villains being badass.
Edited by Gaon on Jun 22nd 2019 at 6:20:08 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
He's a great character, but doesn't really work against Moon Knight, because there are times when he just...can't read Moon Knight, considering Marc has multiple personalities. At one point, he told the Hood, "Okay, I don't even know what's going on with him, because I'm having such a hard time reading him now" (he was Jake Lockley at the time).
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I just remember a scene in Rising Stars where a character had a completely invulnerable force field around them at all times. But a serial killer was still able to kill them because the force field still let it air/light/food and so when the guy was asleep, they taped a plastic bag over his head. (He didn't feel the bag being placed because, well, he couldn't feel anything except for taste. Yeah, talk about having a shitty superpower.)
Edited by alliterator on Jun 22nd 2019 at 6:32:42 AM
This dude would have actually made a good enemy for season 3 of Jessica Jones. Maybe even better than the one we got.
Being able to determine Jess's strengths and weaknesses at a mere glance (and she's not exactly subtle so unlike Foolkiller, he'd have done a better job of figuring her out) would certainly be a huge challenge to her.
One Strip! One Strip!Looks like Florence Pugh's character in Black Widow is Yelena Belova[1]
@alliterator: even if you keep that concept of the Profile having a hard time dealing with the Moon Knight, he still had a solid run opposing him in the brief time he did. The whole bit of tossing MK's brother at him was a solid idea in principle (even if the story itself was a clusterfuck).
I just found both characters very fitting for one another. A man with a indecipherable mind and a man who deciphers any mind. There's some "immovable object, unstoppable force" poetry to it.
Edited by Gaon on Jun 22nd 2019 at 8:23:49 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."So, I finally watched Captain Marvel and I loved it. Lot of thoughts. Not the most original one, but really nice arc of Carol breaking free of manipulation and coming back into herself. And ditto the Skrull reveal. Perhaps because I was spoiled on both, I was sensitive to how the cinematography changes so that after The Reveal, everything about the Kree feels "off". And how the Skrulls gradually lose any "scary music" when they appear.
One other thought, it's going to be hard to do a "Spider-Man gets and frees himself of the symbiote" movie in the MCU, because Carol's Battle in the Center of the Mind was great and reminded me of the very well-done one with the symbiote arc in The Spectacular Spider-Man.
Finally, I find Carol's Leeroy Jenkins tendencies very charming.
Edit - I'm curious. Is there any Word of God regarding whether Minn-erva's line about Earth being a "shithole" a reference to Trump's "shithole countries" comment?
I'm guessing that it's most likely just an illustration of the Kree's sense of superiority/ dark subversion of an enlightened and superior alien race (is there a trope for that?) But I could see the Trump allusion in light of how the Kree treat the Skrulls and presumably everyone else.
Edited by Hodor2 on Jun 22nd 2019 at 10:40:43 AM
I'd rather not see the symbiote again in film for a while anyway - at least not associated with Spidey - unless its during a Secret War adaptation. In adaptations, the symbiotes tend to have just the one plot, really.
It's a bit of subject change, but it's the same with Galactus, really. Unless they're willing to adapt his cosmic traits and the depiction of him as akin to a force of nature, I'd rather not have him. Some other adaptations portray him as blah, blah, blah big scary dogmatic alien, but he's just not interesting that way.
(Either way, I don't see him as the next Big Bad like I'm seeing some other people do. Galactus is pretty much the definition of an effective, powerful single plot antagonist).
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 22nd 2019 at 8:45:21 AM
I agree. I didn't want to make my post overly long, but I'm not really interested in seeing a rehash of that plotline. An honestly, I think the right direction to go with symbiotes is to have them as starting out good or learning morality from their hosts. I guess I like Heroic Host stories.
But more than that, I find it annoying generally when positive character development is continually undone and I feel like the grim and serious horror plotlines that are regularly done with the symbiote are generally immature.
As for Galactus, I've never really been that aware of him but I see your point. I'm not sure how much can be done with him because he's essentially an Eldritch Abomination and can only be paused, never stopped. Not to mention, Doramanu (spelling?) in Doctor Strange was pretty much a Composite Character with Galactus and the movie's use of him was probably the best part of that movie and was an effective telling of "the only Galactus story".
Edited by Hodor2 on Jun 22nd 2019 at 10:53:52 AM
I feel like Phoenix, the Symbiote and Galactus have all had their plots kinda played out and likely won't be showing up in adaptations for a while now.
One Strip! One Strip!And what with Venom (2018) making over $800 million at the box office, Sony's gonna ride the symbiote train for the next good while. I can see the MCU stepping away from those stories to avoid brand dilution. Also, the MCU Spidey films seem to be trying to avoid things the Sony films already tackled.
Although unlike Venom or the Dark Phoenix, Galactus only had the one film before hand, and that was 12 years ago. Telling a different spin on the story is the challenging part. Maybe they could adapt the story where Galactus got poisoned and the Fantastic Four had to cure him?
At the very least, if they play the story straight he won't be a freakin' space cloud this time.

Well even more so, it was already brutal.
Edited by slimcoder on Jun 22nd 2019 at 2:46:35 AM
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