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These are the X-Men characters that have appeared in non-X-Men books and can definitely appear in non-X-Men movies:
- Sabretooth started out as an antagonist for Iron Fist. If they ever end up making an Iron Fist movie or restarting his show on Hulu, I definitely think they can include Sabretooth as a villain.
- Mystique and Rogue started as villains for Carol Danvers, who was Ms. Marvel at the time. I can see a mysterious person working in the background, pulling strings, and then at the end revealing she is actually Mystique.
- Jaime Madrox the Multiple Man first appeared in Giant-Sized Fantastic Four #4. I can see the FF meeting him or trying to figure out his powers before realizing he's a mutant.
Doc Ock is one of those interesting villains who I kinda feel gets a bit of... heightened competence because of how famous he is.
Like, in the PS 4 spiderman game he's positioned as being the most powerful member of the Sinister 6. The most intelligent? Certainly. But the most dangerous in a fight? Compared to Rhino, Electro, Scorpion?
Kaze ni Nare!Doc ock being able to tank blows from Spider-Man is unfortunately just a "necessary weasel" kind of deal. Technically yes one punch should have him sparked out unconscious but it's comic books. I know thats probably not a helpful answer.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."It's like how Superman wreck Lex Luthor's murder machines with Lex inside, and the guy takes no damage. Or how Batman can continually break his enemies' bones, yet they come back no worse for the wear a few days later. Or how the Rogues (or really anyone who isn't Prof. Zoom) can challenge Flash at all, let alone be a collective archenemy to him.
Just roll with it, I say.
Well, there's him tanking punches, and I'm not sure how he can even hit S Pidey to begin with. Even with the arms he's a normal human with human reflexes fighting someone with preternatural reflexes and speed. I have flashbacks to Green Arrow managing to land hits on the Flash in the tv show and that destroyed my brain.
Yeah, I know it's all comic books. It doesn't annoy me or anything. That was just my point about how Doc Ock gets to be especially competent mainly because of how famous he is. Like an offshoot of joker immunity.
Edited by GNinja on Jun 14th 2019 at 6:53:04 PM
Kaze ni Nare!I do not find it annoying personally; many versions of the character make it clear Doc Ock's tentacles have 1) much faster reaction time than a normal human and 2) are equipped in a way that allow him to see all around him. So yeah, his human part should be easy to hit, but his robotic arms can stop blows before Peter hits.
I think the Flash is consistently portrayed as having slower reflexes than would be proportional to his speed, which is why people can hit him. It's not a 1-1 of movement speed to reflexes, his reflexes are much faster than a normal human, but they're much slower than his movement speed. I might be wrong on that, but that's the most logical reason I can think of.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jun 15th 2019 at 12:10:09 PM
I think Ock is just so squishy that Peter over-corrects and hits Ock a lot less hard than he does other non-powered human opponents.
In a novel, he once got mad at Doc Ock for purposefully trying to recreate George Stacy's death and punched him hard enough to break his arm.
That's what happens when he doesn't hold back with Otto and that's probably what he usually wants to avoid.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIt’s a pretty famous Quicksilver moment from the comics too
He describes his whole life as standing in line behind someone that can’t figure out an ATM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAnd not to derail too much, but Flash demonstrated in the tv show that he's capable of pacing around an entire room multiple times while the world appears to be in slow motion, think through precisely what he wants to say to the girl in front of him, get back into position, and resume normal time like nothing happened all in the span it takes some coffee granules to travel from the packet to the lip of a mug. That kind of speed is so ludicrous that writers have to pretend it doesn't exist. You expect me to believe that he can then move on to get hit by normal humans leading their hits or feinting. He should be capable of doing his taxes, working out, going to get a pizza, all before picking up his opponent and carrying them into prison before his opponent can even think. It's why super speed is one of my least favourite super powers, it's the one that needs to be ignored the most for plots to work, and it being ignored is especially obvious.
Kaze ni Nare!

I'd like to see a film have another go at Apocalypse. Some people think the next big bad should be Kang the Conquerer. Doesn't Kang have some connection to Apocalypse?
Edited by GNinja on Jun 14th 2019 at 2:29:02 PM
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