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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Part of it was that Endgame was for the Avengers who had run out their three movies already. That’s why most of the people snapped were newer heroes who still had movies forthcoming
The Guardians still had a movie coming up, rather than worry about stepping on its toes too much, it’s easoer to sideline them so they’re in stasis for their third movie
Same for Black Panther and Spider-Man
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI haven't yet seen Avengers Endgame, so I've had to skip some pages.
Anyway, I'm about to start The Punisher (2017) soon, and it is a part of the MCU, even though it's self-contained?
Are these considered more Expanded Universe (like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is) or not, having seen YMMV.Marvel Cinematic Universe where it claims the Netflix shows are Fanon Discontinuity?
What will this mean for the upcoming Loki series, whenever it airs? Expanded Universe or Fanon Discontinuity?
Star-Lord felt a little off in Infinity War and Endgame.
Stuff like him trying to compete with Thor, spending his final moments with Gamora arguing about going left or right, losing his cool and thwacking Thanos out of his coma, ect. all felt like stuff from pre-GOTG Star-Lord, not the more matured version from the end of Vol. 2.
He's my only real major characterization criticism, though.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Avengers: Endgame is a mere 57 million away from surpassing Avatar. Go see Endgame again/for the first time. Help that happen. Avatar doesn't deserve its spot as the top-grossing movie of all time, and Endgame is the only movie that has ever even come close to beating it.
Endgame's a great movie with a ton of rewatch value, and I'm saying that as someone who watched it twice and was floored the second time by how deep the writing is and how many in-jokes and references are packed into the script. If nothing else, watch it again to catch all of the characters in the big army scene at the end.
I'm not sure it'll ever happen now, but I really want to see the proper Mandarin in an MCU movie.
Gimmicky rings and all. I live for that shit. (Though my friend did just make me realize that he might be considered a rehash of Thanos with the Gauntlet)
Edited by GNinja on Jun 10th 2019 at 2:25:35 PM
Kaze ni Nare!I'm quite mixed on how the "Thanos dualogy" handled the Guardians as well. I feel quite strongly about them so it's little surprise that they brought about plenty of the absolute best and worst moments in both movies (loved Rocket's talk with Thor in IW, hated Gamora's death). At least going into Endgame I didn't have much expectation for most of them sans Rocket, Gamora and Nebula (the latter of which was probably my favorite part of that movie).
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)I'm probably never gonna forgive Quill.
It's unfair, but I'll never trust him again, no matter how many more times he saves the universe.
Cause he failed when it mattered...not with Gamora. He came through there, or at least tried to.
So yeah, Quill, every single entry on my shit list.
One Strip! One Strip!Quill is a lovable idiot, but I take comfort in the fact that it was all part of that one-in-14-million chance.
Edited by Fighteer on Jun 10th 2019 at 10:43:11 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"They showed footage from the Avengers game.
They also confirmed Hank Pym is in the game and that narrator is most likely Kamala Khan.
Edited by LordVatek on Jun 10th 2019 at 10:54:53 AM
This song needs more love.I'd be fine if the Mandarin were more like the Mandarin from Iron Man: Armored Adventures.
Disgusted, but not surprised@GNinja: Well, Kevin Feige confirmed that they're planning on bringing the real Mandarin for a future film, so you may get your shot there.
I am a bit disappointed we didn't get to see a proper confrontation between Drax and Thanos. Aside from Drax blowing their cover on Knowhere due to his need for vengeance, we didn't get to see him really laying into Thanos for the loss of his family. I know there were a lot of characters and plot points to juggle, so I'm a bit lenient about certain characters being relegated to smaller roles. But the first Guardians film set-up that Drax had shifted his quest for revenge from Ronan to Thanos during the ending. Drax could've offered some insight to how his people suffered after Thanos slaughtered half the population, and given him motivation to not lose the new family he had made with his team.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Jun 10th 2019 at 11:36:42 AM
The rule of comics is that Drax only gets revenge on Thanos when it screws things up for everyone else, like in Annihilation
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAt the end of Guardians 2, Nebula has forgiven Gamora, but she's still too determined to find Thanos and kill him brutally all by herself. Gamora points out that there are more productive ways of combating Thanos, but Nebula runs off alone anyway. This turns out to be a massive error on Nebula's part, as her assassination attempt just gets her captured and alerts Thanos as to where the Soul Stone, also pushing him out of hiding and therefore dooming the entire universe
.
The moral and narrative path for Nebula here is clear: one-track revenge is disastrous and she has to allow herself to open up to and rely on a family.
Instead, Endgame flips around her character to suggest she... feels too emotionally attached to Thanos?? When she sees him again at the Garden, she displays guilt on her face, never mind that he was torturing her just a month ago and she had openly boasted about how she would make him suffer back
. Then the majority of her screentime centers around her fighting her literal past self, who is likewise attached to Thanos and would never move against him. The same past self who a few days later, had nothing in her timeline changed, would've betrayed Thanos the instant she saw the chance with Ronan.
So it feels so weird how they took Nebula from a feral ball of emotions to demure and submissive, when her arc before Endgame suggested a very different path.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 10th 2019 at 9:02:22 AM
It’s a character beat echoed with Gamora
She killed him, she thought, and then cried over him despite how much she hated him
Emotions are complicated
As for Nebula, shortly before/during Gotg 1, she still desperately wanted Thanos’ approval but seeing him favor Gamora again even after Gamora betrayed him was the last straw apparently
Emotions are complicated
Edited by Bocaj on Jun 10th 2019 at 12:05:35 PM
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not really the Russos who dropped the ball on the Guardians, that's more on the writers. Any Guardian who isn't Rocket or Nebula got screwed over by only reappearing just in time for the final battle and the aftermath.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."