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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#103526: Jun 9th 2019 at 9:30:48 PM

[up][up]Yeah, but that's happening because Devil Hulk has supplanted Savage Hulk.

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#103527: Jun 9th 2019 at 9:31:27 PM

Well, Godzilla's still technically canon in the 616-universe. He was briefly mutated to look completely different and wasn't referred to as Godzilla after Marvel lost the license. But he did return to normal at some point and helped the Mole Man attack the surface world in a Lawyer-Friendly Cameo in the first issue of Mighty Avengers.

It's The Transformers whose position in the Marvel universe is shaky.

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#103528: Jun 9th 2019 at 9:48:42 PM

IDW may not be around for much longer so who knows? Every time news about them hits it’s about how much more money they’ve lost.

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#103529: Jun 9th 2019 at 11:02:50 PM

[up] Well, that's sad. They;re the ones that put out the oversized "Artist's Edition" of comics, as well as do some more kid-oriented comics for Disney. Of course, IDW might be for sale soon, so Disney could just buy them completely.

Edited by alliterator on Jun 9th 2019 at 11:24:30 AM

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#103530: Jun 9th 2019 at 11:10:12 PM

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#103532: Jun 10th 2019 at 12:41:47 AM

I agree, it's probably better to use this opportunity to support a lesser or unknown talent. Especially since you probably want to go for authenticity here and teenager-passing Pakistani actresses aren't generally high profile in the West.

Not sure how I feel about Mindy Kaling being treated as some sort of go-to spokesperson for Desi representation issues as if it's a matter that we can put on the shoulders of one person. Granted, I don't know if Disney specifically sought her out because they saw her as such, if they just asked her because of her previous involvement with A Wrinkle In Time, or because she specifically asked, but it's a little worrying.

Edited by AlleyOop on Jun 10th 2019 at 3:47:34 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#103533: Jun 10th 2019 at 7:18:29 AM

[up] I think she specifically asked, because she's been outspoken about her love for Ms. Marvel. Back in March 2018, she and Riz Ahmed had a Twitter conversation about writing a Ms. Marvel movie, that eventually included Jameela Jamil, Sana Amanat, and G. Willow Wilson.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#103534: Jun 10th 2019 at 7:59:24 AM

Obviously the role should be played by a teenage girl or failing that, a young adult.

I am not very knowledgable of Indian actresses between 14 and 25 years old, so I would not know to give a cast option.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jun 10th 2019 at 8:08:15 AM

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#103535: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:01:43 AM

Just watched Ant-Man and the Wasp.

My GOD. Now I seriously regret not watching this on theater. No wonder why some people consider this among the best MCU films.

I don't know about best, but this is has the hands down the most creative action set in MCU I've ever seen. The whole shrinking an entire building into career size made me jaw drop even though I watched in on trailer.

Also, I really appreciate how this film has no truly unlikable characters. Every character gets at least one or two memorable moment or line. I like that in a film.

The only very minor complaint I have is that Ghost could've been far more terrifying. She felt like a less impressive knockoff of the Twins from The Matrix Reloaded. As a character, though, I don't mind her. She's all right.

Now, the Lawrence Fishburne guy. I really liked him because how he was unwilling to cross the line.

Also, I gotta comment on the whole Ant-Treasure-Cave thing. That thing was awesome and goddamn, Scott is an amazing dad. I mean, holy shit, it takes special kinf of dedication to build something like that. [lol]

Lastly, I liked Woo. That guy has a crush on Scott. [lol]

Oh yeah, and the whole Snapped thing. Well, I've seen Endgame so I'm not too impacted.

Three and half stars out of four. This one is within my top 7 favorite MCU film.

Edited by dRoy on Jun 11th 2019 at 12:02:29 AM

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#103536: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:02:40 AM

[up][up] You joke, but I actually wouldn't mind if they pulled in an actual teenage girl to write elaborate fantasy segments taking place in the realm of Kamala's imagination and/or fics.

I wonder if Chris Evans and RDJ would be willing to come back for the minor role of Yaoi Fanfic Steve and Tony?

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 10th 2019 at 9:03:09 AM

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#103538: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:06:10 AM

[up][up][up] Ant Man and the Wasp has some great moments, to be sure. When I first watched it, I was a little put off by the lack of a Big Bad, but it works really well with the story they are trying to tell. I especially like how Marvel has been making their villains more sympathetic and nuanced: Ghost isn't even a bad person, just someone who was handed a really rotten deal by life.

Edited by Fighteer on Jun 10th 2019 at 11:06:23 AM

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#103539: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:06:11 AM

Oh, played by. I thought you meant the movie should be written by a teenager. My mistake.

I still want an actual teenager to write fanfic sequences for a hypothetical Kamala movie. They could hold a contest or something. Submit your entries and compete to have YOUR GOOFY MCU FIC featured in the movie.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 10th 2019 at 9:09:46 AM

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#103540: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:09:04 AM

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#103541: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:09:53 AM

YES.

This hypothetical movie needs to be as FICCY as possible in parts.

"I am Captain Marvel, who probably has a real name or something but who knows. I'm here for you, Kamala, because you are actually my daughter. Or sister. I don't know, my age is weird."

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 10th 2019 at 9:10:10 AM

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#103542: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:10:57 AM

I know hiring teenagers is harder, but I feel her youth is a pretty important segment of her identity and Dawson Casting is quite annoying.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#103543: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:24:27 AM

[up][up]Carol is old enough to be her grandmother.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#103544: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:55:20 AM

Oh, man. A scene where Brie Larson plays "Captain Marvel, as portrayed by Kamala Khan's imagination" would be freaking fantastic.

Like, "Antman's Luis flashbacks" or "Loki pretending to be Cap" fantastic.

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#103545: Jun 10th 2019 at 9:05:15 AM

That, and the requisite scene where, after getting her powers, Kamala spends a bit shapeshifted to look like Carol, would be glorious to see.

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#103546: Jun 10th 2019 at 9:53:21 AM

XD I'd love that. Imagining the usually stoic Captain Marvel acting like a geek would be comedy gold^^

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#103547: Jun 10th 2019 at 11:07:53 AM

Oh hey, glad to see some praise for AM&tW. It's one of my top MCU films.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#103548: Jun 10th 2019 at 11:21:17 AM

It’s one of my favorite ones too. I love the twist on “irresponsible man child surrounded by smarter people” schtick, which the first movie played straighter. Scott is by far the most responsible person in the movie.

It’s kind of become Scott’s main character trait now, that he’s stalwart and responsible despite people dismissing him as an idiot. I’m kind of surprised the Russo’s incorporated that so well in Endgame, given that they adapted the Guardians’ similar idiocy without nuance.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 10th 2019 at 11:26:51 AM

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#103549: Jun 10th 2019 at 11:24:12 AM

Yeah, Ant-Man and the Wasp is very much a step up from the first Ant-Man, which had style but not a lot of substance. Ant-Man and the Wasp kept and enhanced the style while giving us a ton of story and character substance.

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#103550: Jun 10th 2019 at 12:00:16 PM

[up][up] Scott has some of the biggest laugh-out-loud scenes in Endgame. It's brilliantly done, while still maintaining his characterization.

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