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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#103501: Jun 9th 2019 at 3:05:09 PM

As Tobias once pointed out, if any part of the MCU was going to reference two irradiated white monster-men destroying the blackest town in the American zeitgeist outside of New Orleans in some American imperialist bullshit, it was going to be Luke Cage.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#103502: Jun 9th 2019 at 3:09:38 PM

I know some of the Netflix shows had a newspaper clipping about the fight in Harlem whenever there was a scene set at a newspaper office... I forget if there was one during Luke Cage (2016) however...

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#103503: Jun 9th 2019 at 7:37:32 PM

That's Daredevil, and it was a shot of the Battle for New York from The Avengers, not Hulk vs. Abom.

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GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#103504: Jun 9th 2019 at 7:52:04 PM

Incredible Hulk was always a film I liked more than other people did. Then again I'm crazy, villain obsessed, and I liked Emil Blonsky. Plus, the Hulk wasn't as insufferable to me in that film as he became over time.

Probably my most unpopular opinion in any work of fiction ever (other than not being a fan of Levi Ackerman in Attack on Titan or Tyrion Lannister in Game of Thrones) is that I really don't like the modern Hulk's shtick.

Iron Man 3 is one of only two films I've ever walked out on, so that's gotta be pretty damning in my eyes.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#103505: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:08:36 PM

Iron Man 3 is one of only two films I've ever walked out on, so that's gotta be pretty damning in my eyes.

...That is a movie that should be walked out on. I wish I had done that.

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
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#103506: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:10:57 PM

Speaking of Iron Man 3, what does everyone think of the theory that the realm Mandarin might be Shang-Chi's father since the rights to the Fu Manchu character are complicated and Fu Manchu is looked back upon as a racist yellow peril stereotype?

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#103507: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:12:09 PM

I've been saying that they should do that for years, so I'm down with it.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#103508: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:13:23 PM

That's Daredevil, and it was a shot of the Battle for New York from The Avengers, not Hulk vs. Abom.

There was also a newspaper clipping about the "Harlem Terror" that depicted the Hulk.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Jun 9th 2019 at 11:14:14 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#103509: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:14:20 PM

[up]x3 - Makes more sense than buying the Fu Manchu rights back...which they probably could without breaking a sweat.

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#103510: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:15:31 PM

So now that Time Travel is a thing in the MCU, does anyone else think that Kang is going to appear? It'd also tie in to the rumored arrival of the Fantastic Four to the MCU, considering Kang's been a recurring villain for them (when he's not going after the Avengers).

I'd actually prefer if they didn't go with Doom at the start. It's been done already. Why not go with something more...cosmic, like Blastaar or Annihilus? Or both?

On a side note, I've always found "Blastaar" to be one of the best comicbook villain names of all time.

Edited by M84 on Jun 9th 2019 at 11:18:59 PM

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GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#103511: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:19:08 PM

It depends on how he's done really. If he's well written I'll gladly accept him. I'm generally not a fan of the cosmic scale stuff in comics though. The levelling can start to get ridiculous.

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#103512: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:21:13 PM

I really don't like the modern Hulk's shtick.

What are you talking about with "modern Hulk's shtick"? A lot of things about Hulk are Older Than They Think. For example, in the oldest comics Hulk was fairly articulate and gentle, mostly just trying to stay out of trouble and never starting a fight, everyone everywhere just assumed he was a dangerous monster.

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#103513: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:23:49 PM

Yeah, the MCU isn't really breaking new ground with the Hulk. And they haven't even begun to delve into just how crazy it gets — there's no Devil Hulk, Mr. Fixit, Guilt Hulk...

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GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#103514: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:24:07 PM

[up][up] I mean "modern hulk" just in terms of the movie universe. As opposed to how he was in TIH. Not how he was in the comic.

Current Hulk may have been a better term

Edited by GNinja on Jun 9th 2019 at 3:25:08 PM

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#103515: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:25:34 PM

[up][up] And they might not due to Universal.

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#103516: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:26:22 PM

[up][up]Again, I'm asking what you mean by that. What aspect of modern MCU Hulk do you not like?

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#103517: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:30:20 PM

[up] I feel like if I say, people are going to get all "Well, that's why most people like him." as if that should suddenly makes me like something. Or they'll say he's like that in the comic. Which doesn't particularly interest me. I'm aware this is a me problem.

But okay, I don't like the Hulk's power and attitude being played for laughs. "Puny God" from Avengers 1 almost made me leave the cinema, and in general I grind my teeth a bit during most of Hulk's big "audience cheer or laugh here" moments.

Edited by GNinja on Jun 9th 2019 at 3:31:15 PM

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#103518: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:37:38 PM

I'd say Kang is a natural launching point from here on as the next Big Bad.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#103519: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:45:26 PM

But okay, I don't like the Hulk's power and attitude being played for laughs.
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#103520: Jun 9th 2019 at 8:50:20 PM

[up]Hmmm.

Hhhhhmmmmm.

Hhhhhmmmmm.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jun 9th 2019 at 8:55:18 AM

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#103521: Jun 9th 2019 at 9:01:50 PM

The premise of that series is basically "What if Devil Hulk was the dominant personality?"

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#103522: Jun 9th 2019 at 9:12:43 PM

With an Abomination that really looks like an abomination.

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#103523: Jun 9th 2019 at 9:13:06 PM

It's basically Godzilla in Hell but with the Hulk instead of Godzilla.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#103524: Jun 9th 2019 at 9:13:23 PM

[up][up][up] The premise is more "What if the Hulk wasn't just smart, but smarter than Banner. And he only comes out at night."

[up] Not really. Godzilla in Hell is about, well, Godzilla falling through Hell and fighting all the way. Immortal Hulk has an arc that takes place in Hell (kind of), but most of it takes place on Earth.

Edited by alliterator on Jun 9th 2019 at 9:15:32 AM

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#103525: Jun 9th 2019 at 9:17:41 PM

Even IDW does good work with Godzilla, I'd love to see a Modern Marvel Godzilla comic somehow, just to see how he would interact with Modern Marvel.

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