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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#103451: Jun 6th 2019 at 7:33:21 PM

Eh, there's always a rumor. They're going to do it eventually, regardless. Be it in a year, or four.

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#103452: Jun 6th 2019 at 8:11:40 PM

Sitting here, quietly hoping Quentin Beck will be cool.

Kaze ni Nare!
Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#103453: Jun 6th 2019 at 9:55:13 PM

[up] Whether he's a genuine hero or a Villain with Good Publicity, Mysterio does know how to put on a show.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#103454: Jun 6th 2019 at 9:58:13 PM

[up] Nobody:
Mysterio:

Edited by alliterator on Jun 6th 2019 at 9:58:21 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#103455: Jun 6th 2019 at 10:02:47 PM

[up] That Queen of England bit will never not be hysterical & Roxanne's reaction to it. [lol]

The most important quality about a super-villain is indeed the presentation & panache.

Its why Joker was so disappointing in the Jokerz gang in the Batman Beyond animated flick. They totally lack panache.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 6th 2019 at 10:21:26 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#103456: Jun 6th 2019 at 10:06:48 PM

Speaking of, I want Quentin Beck to give us a full bellied, head thrown all the way back, full tilt Evil Laugh. Because it's freakin' Mysterio, and all the world's a stage.

When's the last time we got a really great Evil Laugh from an MCU villain? Loki?

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#103458: Jun 6th 2019 at 10:19:44 PM

[up][up] When did Loki have an Evil Laugh?

As for the next Evil Laugh, I'm putting my money on Green Goblin.

Edited by Shadao on Jun 6th 2019 at 10:20:01 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#103459: Jun 6th 2019 at 10:21:43 PM

[up][up] Huh right it is.

We could use a good Card Carrying Villain for once.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 6th 2019 at 10:21:54 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#103460: Jun 6th 2019 at 10:28:32 PM

The best part about that Megamind clip is that it's not just an awesome moment, it's absolutely true. You don't get to be a real supervillain unless you've got some drama in your soul.

[up][up] Loki gets a good amount of evil laughs and chuckles in his first few appearances, though the one I always remember the best is this one.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 6th 2019 at 10:30:05 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#103461: Jun 6th 2019 at 10:33:30 PM

Red Skull was very much a card carrying villain from what I remember. As was Cross.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#103462: Jun 6th 2019 at 10:36:52 PM

Red Skull is imo the best "just straight up over the top, old school villainy" villain of the bunch, mostly because he's written like stepped right out of a 40's radio drama.

''"CAPTAIN AMERICA! HOW EXCITING!"

The more or less grounded nature of the MCU means there aren't an awful lot of opportunities to get that again. We'll mainly start getting either in series that are more open to traditional comic book silliness (like GOTG or Ant-Man), characters who are written to embody that even in more emotionally grounded stories (like Mysterio, hopefully), or simply looser films.

Dr. Doom should be that way too, when we inevitably get him.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 6th 2019 at 10:42:44 AM

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#103463: Jun 6th 2019 at 10:53:14 PM

@Shadao. I'm hoping he's a genuine villain (or if he's good then there's a hell of a surprise villain to replace him) and that the reveal happens with enough time to let us really enjoy him as a bad guy.

Kaze ni Nare!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103464: Jun 6th 2019 at 11:23:47 PM

Loki has mostly dramatic speeches. Honestly, he is the biggest drama queen under the villains. The only one who has better speeches is Steve.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#103465: Jun 7th 2019 at 10:22:36 AM

Gwyneth Paltrow didn’t know she was in Spider-Man: Homecoming.

And she has fourth billing for that movie? Her agent must be fantastic.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103466: Jun 7th 2019 at 11:13:32 AM

Lol...most likely she doesn't watch the MCU and just assumed that the scene would be for an Avengers movie.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#103467: Jun 7th 2019 at 6:42:50 PM

The most important Marvel video ever.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#103468: Jun 7th 2019 at 7:22:43 PM

Regardless of what you think about Captain Marvel, I think everyone agrees that Goose's scenes are the best.

The legend has returned.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103469: Jun 8th 2019 at 12:17:43 AM

In my mind it is often just the "movie with the cat".

Goose is great! (though my favourite scene from the movie is still Carol vs Yon-Rogg).

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#103470: Jun 8th 2019 at 1:59:38 AM

XD I never get tired of this. God I hope they have her show up again in later movies. Best cat ever!

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103471: Jun 8th 2019 at 3:12:59 AM

She is a beauty in the long standing tradition of great cats (I wonder if Goose moonlighted in the Man in Black in another reality).

Edited by Swanpride on Jun 8th 2019 at 3:13:38 AM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#103472: Jun 8th 2019 at 8:21:44 PM

So The Incredible Hulk came on TV. Guess I'll watch it for shits.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#103473: Jun 8th 2019 at 11:14:20 PM

Double-posting to say that TIH is now under my belt (almost more enjoyable than overhearing the conversations between my drunken brother and mom but that's a can of worms for another time).

Got about what I expected from this. That is to say, not much of quality sadly. It's largely quite shlock-y and uninteresting, with Blonsky probably coming the closest to a character I actually kinda liked. Edward Norton was meh as Bruce, Betty Ross and Sam Sterns were mildly annoying, action was probably passable for the time but lol now, Abomination looks goofy, Hulk looks ugly (also his hair here just looks stupid), really this is just not a great watch. There's so little of note or worth here, the best thing I can really say is that I didn't have to pay to watch it. Hands down the most skippable movie in the franchise.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#103474: Jun 9th 2019 at 2:40:47 AM

Thor 2 is definitely more skippable in as much as it's incredibly dull and about the only thing that matters is Frigga's death, and even that not so much until Endgame made it relevant.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103475: Jun 9th 2019 at 2:55:42 AM

I disagree. For one, in terms of the overreaching arc, it is way more relevant. Two, whole what Thor does in the movie is pretty much forgettable, what Loki does, isn't. After all, one of his tricks leads to the death of the one person he cares about, and what he does towards the end of the movie leads directly to Thor ragnarok. Remove TIH, and the only important information you miss is "when exactly did the Hulk destroy Harlem" and who General Ross exactly is. Frankly, Ao S offers more interesting additional information than TIH does. Remove TDW you suddenly miss a huge chunk of the overreaching story.


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