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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Kaecillius has a interesting motivation in theory, in the one scene he's actually allowed to elaborate on it but again it is literally a single and brief scene, which seems a bit of a strange basis compared to Killmonger's multiple emotionally charged scenes (unlike Vanko, mind you, who has like two). Each to his own I guess.
I do think Kaecillius had some fairly neat deleted scenes, though. One of them, in which he has a brief chat with a Priest about truth in religion, is fairly neat.
"After. Life. Is a contradiction."
Edited by Gaon on Jun 1st 2019 at 2:02:20 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
It comes down to buying it I guess. I couldn't get invested in Killmonger's acting for whatever reason. So he really just came off as a kid out for revenge.
I did say it's frustrating. One thing to know about me. I don't want to be RIGHT in not liking something. If someone were to say "I agree, Killmonger was terrible" I don't really gain anything from that. I would much rather be wrong and be convinced to like a thing. But that's the tihng with Killmonger. I think I "get him" his acting and his writing just didn't click.
Kaze ni Nare!I actually read one of the Doctor Strange tie-in comics
that actually went in-depth into Kaecillius's origins. How he once had a son and a wife who died months apart from each other, how he joined the sorcerers of Karma-Taj in order to find peace and try to bring his family back, only to learn that bringing the dead back to life via magic was a lost cause.
It really explained his motivations and why he turned to Dormammu to grant eternal life. It's probably the one MCU tie-in comic that I'd recommend fans read, if only because this is all stuff that should've been in the movie itself. It's a bit frustrating, since the most interesting things about Kaecillius aren't actually in the final product. It's a pity that it's relegated to supplementary material.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Jun 1st 2019 at 5:12:20 AM
The conversation that Kaecilius has with the priest in the deleted scene regarding the Bible is doubly amusing to me, because Doctor Strange's director went to the same Christian university as me and every student graduates from it with at least a Bible minor.
There's seemingly a theme in Doctor Strange about the acceptance of death and loss, demonstrated most strongly with the Ancient One's farewell and with Strange making peace with his disability, but Kaecilius needed to be tied into it stronger. Make his backstory about mourning his family more prominent, don't leave him as an abstract "I want to turn everyone on Earth into undead slaves because reasons."
Also maybe watch out for that loose end of "magic can't revive the dead- oh wait, it can, Wong's fine now."
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 1st 2019 at 2:21:19 AM
Oh, I completely believe that. Considering how nervous some of those dudes were (and how many of them they put in that elevator to take on one person) I fully suspect many of them wanted to take him up on it.
One Strip! One Strip!@Tuckerscreator: What a bizarre coincidence. Maybe that was his impetus for writing in the line of Kaecillius quoting scripture. He had to shove that knowledge somewhere!
"All you Fascists bound to lose."He'd ask for proof, by which point we're in the same boat as before as T'challa would never give him the herb (nor should he).
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
I’m pretty sure that both Heaven and Hell are actual physical places in 616 at least. (Also Jack Kirby may or may not be God.)
Edited by megaeliz on Jun 1st 2019 at 10:34:09 AM
Him being in Eternals has been rumored for a while.
Specifically as the villain, Druig.
Edited by LordVatek on Jun 1st 2019 at 12:15:58 PM
This song needs more love.
When he does it, he is. That was the main draw of Man of Tai Chi. Seeing Keanu use his detached acting to portray a sociopath.

Killmonger was compelling to me because one gets the sense that, if only things had gone a little differently, in another life he could've been a great and kind man who changed Wakanda and the world for the better.
Kaecilius was too flat for me to care about. He shows up, he stabs stuff, he monologues, next scene. While occasionally it was implied that he was a grieving man turning to extremes due to wrestling with the finality of death, the film largely treated him only as a recurring obstacle than a true character who grew into what he became.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jun 1st 2019 at 1:39:35 AM