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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#103101: May 31st 2019 at 10:44:26 PM

I feel like whatever plot would warrant the X-Men and Fantastic Four teaming up would just have Daredevil be like "Hi guys, I'm here too!" only to be met with crickets.

This song needs more love.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#103102: Jun 1st 2019 at 5:29:51 AM

Unless they were fighting a space mutant prosecutor trying to sue Earth for a crime. And thus they need earth's finest criminal lawyer...

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#103103: Jun 1st 2019 at 8:30:25 AM

Knowing the logic of the comics, Daredevil will be able to fight the villains, even when they represent a threat to the combined forces of the X-Men and the Fantastic Four.

Strong as They Need to Be

Even in comics, Daredevil's powers can vary from being a Peak Human to being on the same level as Spiderman.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jun 1st 2019 at 8:31:58 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#103104: Jun 1st 2019 at 8:33:22 AM

His powers and skills do lend him toward being able to take a supporting role

Sneaking in with his ninja training while everyone is doing the big fight

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#103105: Jun 1st 2019 at 8:38:46 AM

In fact there is a deleted scene in which Black Widow supposedly fights against Thanos.

A normal human gives a fight to the guy who stomped Hulk, Nano-suit Iron Man and Fat Thor.

Strong as They Need to Be

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jun 1st 2019 at 8:42:52 AM

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#103106: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:03:39 AM

So I just watched Ant-Man, because I didn't bother with it when it and the sequel aired in the theatres.

My God, why did I skip on this? It's actually pretty damn amazing. It has some of the most creative action sets in MCU and I really love Luis and the gang. I feel like they are some of the best side-characters in the series.

Also, I find Darren Cross oddly sympathetic. I kinda wish he can somehow come back in Antman 3, though I find it unlikely.

Edited by dRoy on Jun 2nd 2019 at 2:03:53 AM

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#103107: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:15:58 AM

Ant-Man and the Wasp and Knuckles: Microverse

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#103109: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:26:45 AM

I really like Ant-Man. In fact, the second one is one of my favorite films in the MCU.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103110: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:48:09 AM

[up][up][up][up] Don't ask me. In my book every MCU movie is worth at least ONE watch.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#103111: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:12:18 AM

Ant-Man has one of the most unique powers & insanest stunts among superhero movies.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#103112: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:17:10 AM

And yet the cruel words exist

"Nobody cares about Antman"

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#103113: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:27:00 AM

I do because Paul Rudd.

I ship Antman x Captain America nowtongue

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103114: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:46:12 AM

I do because this franchise somehow reminds me of the Disney movies from the 1960 to 1970....and that is not a diss. They are such nice, wholesome fun. Honestly, I didn't realise how much I missed that kind of movie.

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#103115: Jun 1st 2019 at 12:29:39 PM

I still don’t get the hype for Killmonger. It’s honestly really frustrating that I don't. I'm the villain guy. I SHOULD like him. I like most of the other well recieved Marvel Villains, but not him. I’m sitting there looking at the exact same scenes others are seeing, but while everyone else is in awe at the wondrousness of it, I’m just like "Really? THAT’S what people are tripping over themselves to praise?"

Kaze ni Nare!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#103116: Jun 1st 2019 at 12:31:34 PM

[up] Okay, here's a question: what villains do you like? Any in MCU films?

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#103117: Jun 1st 2019 at 12:33:30 PM

[up] Stane, Kaecilius, Ultron, Thanos, Vulture, Ego, Kingpin, Killgrave, Owlsley, Pierce, Crossbones.

Seriously, I don't hate everything.

Edited by GNinja on Jun 1st 2019 at 7:40:16 PM

Kaze ni Nare!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103118: Jun 1st 2019 at 12:57:23 PM

Finally someone who appreciates Pierce!

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#103119: Jun 1st 2019 at 12:57:46 PM

literally who?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#103120: Jun 1st 2019 at 1:06:36 PM

[up] Alexander Pierce? Head of Hydra?

I like him better than Stane, because Stane was obviously evil the moment he appeared on screen. But Pierce...he was so convincing that I started to doubt myself wondering if he is maybe a red herring.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#103121: Jun 1st 2019 at 1:07:37 PM

But Stane has a pretty good set of lungs though.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#103122: Jun 1st 2019 at 1:12:06 PM

Winter Soldier is my fav of the marvel movies. Cap being my fav Avenger is part of it (I always loved the elevator scene partially because I always felt like his pre-ass kicking one liner was delivered with complete sincerity. He was genuinely asking if anyone wanted to get off the elevator), the espionage thriller tone was another, Winter Soldier's baller theme was another, and the whole Hydra twist was the big one.

Pierce is likeable. He genuinely feels like he respects Nick.

Kaze ni Nare!
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#103123: Jun 1st 2019 at 1:22:17 PM

People like Killmonger because he has a very tragic backstory and motivation deeply linked with a very serious real life issue (that is, white-on-black racism). Film gives him a lot of pathos on that concept, such as the scenes of him and his father. Especially the one in the spirit realm, where you get a legitimate sense of the tragedy within him.

He's also a extremely lethal badass with some amusing mannerisms ("hey auntie!"), so Killmonger ends up hitting that sweet spot where you both pity, fear and laugh with him.

Curioous why you would like Kaecillius though.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#103124: Jun 1st 2019 at 1:23:18 PM

He’s also so hot a girl once bit into her retainer & got it stuck there when he took off his shirt. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#103125: Jun 1st 2019 at 1:30:56 PM

[up][up] The one emotional scene Kaecilius was allowed to have, where he explains his motive and how the Ancient One had been lying to all of them, was my favourite scene in the latter part of Doctor Strange. Plus I found him dryly humourous at points.

I think that's just it with Killmonger. I found him tragic, but not uniquely so. Not "one of the best marvel villains ever" tier. I wasn't a fan of his acting actually. I didn't get that sense of menace of fun that others talk about. He's kinda like Ivan Vanko to me. Both are driven by understandable desires for vengeance, both are complimented by a more over the top secondary villain who supplies them (Hammer and Clawe), both are the hero but evil in terms of their power set, and both represent a dark legacy left over by the main character's parents.

Kaze ni Nare!

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