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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#102826: May 21st 2019 at 9:28:28 PM

While I understand why the Netflix shows couldnt cross over with the MCU, I wonder if they could cross over with the cable/network/hulu/disney + shows.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102827: May 22nd 2019 at 12:45:51 AM

While I am very aware that the LGTB+ community has focussed on Captain Marvel, turning her gay might actually be a terrible idea. The problem is that Captain Marvel is in the same position Black Widow used to be: Her currently being the only leading lady, she kind of has to fit into the desires and wishes of ALL female viewers. So give her any kind of romance at this point and you are bound to p... off at least one group. There is a need to have more leading ladies or at least female characters in prominent roles first.

There is also the idea that woman who want to go to the military just HAVE to be lesbian. Hence turning her gay would play into some really unfortunate tropes.

Honestly, I would prefer it if Mantis were gay. Because she is pretty much the opposite of the stereotypical lesbian character and there were already some suggestion made that she might be.

On a more practical angle: I don't think that Disney will jump both feet first into this, they will slowly turn up the volume to see what they can get away with. I wonder to this day if the starting scene of Endgame run unchanged in Russia and China, or if they just changed the text a little bit.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#102828: May 22nd 2019 at 4:13:59 AM

Mantis is not human, so the idea of straight/bi/gay may not even be relevant for her.

Carol seems too raw and elemental to settle down with any sort of traditional relationship. She seems to be above it all, at least for now. Maybe she'll come down to Earth, metaphorically speaking, at some point.

I loved that scene with Joe Russo, although I didn't realize it was him at first. I should be used to director cameos by now, but all I could think at the timie was, "Wait, I know that guy. It's not Mark Ruffalo... oh, he's gay? Good for Marvel."

Edited by Fighteer on May 22nd 2019 at 7:14:58 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#102829: May 22nd 2019 at 5:36:36 AM

I just want a main character to actually have a shown same-gender relationship. Pretty low bar, but a one-scene character mentioning a dead ex and a character who is apparently bi but not identified as such within the work are not it.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#102830: May 22nd 2019 at 6:26:20 AM

Should they adapt Young Avengers?

Wake me up at your own risk.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#102832: May 22nd 2019 at 6:37:24 AM

So enough time has passed that Infinity Wars comics are appearing on unlimited what with their gimmick of “what if amalgam except only marvel” squishing two characters into one character

Who do you think would be interesting to squish together into one person in the MCU’s more limited cast?

Some of the same possibilities exist but we don’t have to retread

Edited by Bocaj on May 22nd 2019 at 9:38:02 AM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#102833: May 22nd 2019 at 6:46:08 AM

Are we including t.v. shows as well as movies?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#102834: May 22nd 2019 at 7:13:44 AM

Yes

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#102835: May 22nd 2019 at 7:21:36 AM

When Deadpool converts over to the MCU,

Fixed that for you, Weirdguy.

Speaking of Deadpool, I know it'll still be a while before X-Men get into the MCU, but does the same apply for DP? Or is his thing so disconnected from the X-Men, that he could appear sooner rather than later?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#102836: May 22nd 2019 at 7:24:05 AM

It depends on whether they want to reboot Deadpool for the MCU or play wacky multiverse shenanigans with him. They need to keep Ryan Reynolds in the role, and the DP concept is ideal for maintaining continuity across universes.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#102837: May 22nd 2019 at 7:57:27 AM

I don't know if bringing Deadpool into the MCU would help at all. Unless they wanted to try and expand his appearances a bit (i.e. actual team-ups rather than cameos)

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#102838: May 22nd 2019 at 8:07:24 AM

It looks like Far From Home is going to establish how the multiverse works

Unless Mysterio is full of shit

So I could see them migrating Deadpool over to the MCU You know what else would be cool? Migrating the Xmen version of Quicksilver to the MCU. Audiences are probably more familiar with him then the MCU's version, so it would not be that difficult.

MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#102839: May 22nd 2019 at 8:14:54 AM

That is a terrible idea. No replacement Quicksilver, please.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#102840: May 22nd 2019 at 8:16:11 AM

[up][up]Mysterio being full of shit is literally his entire character. He’s a bigger fraud than Hulk Hogan.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#102841: May 22nd 2019 at 8:18:23 AM

If they do bring in Quicksilver, I want to see how Wanda will react to seeing an alternate version of her brother alive. The film's barely touched on how Pietro's death affected her after Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102842: May 22nd 2019 at 10:31:41 AM

Terrible idea. Honestly, I don't want to see ANYTHING of the X-men in the MCU. And Deadpool...I would keep it kind of but not really separate.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#102843: May 22nd 2019 at 11:23:25 AM

They really should just stuff the Fox X-Men into a closet and forget about it after New Mutants. Starting fresh within the MCU is the best thing they can do.

Honestly I'd even be okay if they rebooted Deadpool too. Ryan Reynolds was good but the idea that only one actor can ever play a character was always kind of dumb to me.

Edited by LordVatek on May 22nd 2019 at 2:24:07 PM

This song needs more love.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102844: May 22nd 2019 at 11:24:34 AM

Or just keep doing Deadpool movies until the interest on them dies out and then reboot the whole thing. There is time after all.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#102845: May 22nd 2019 at 11:28:10 AM

I think they've literally said they're continuing the Ryan Renalds Deadpool movies, and there's a picture of Deadpool on the official Disney website. Even if they're not fans of the Fo X-Men, they're clearly fans of Deadpool.

Deadpool 2 ended with a bunch of time travel shenanigans anyway, so it wouldn't be hard to reboot the X-Men while just saying that Deadpool retconned himself and his movie's supporting cast into the MCU.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#102846: May 22nd 2019 at 11:35:12 AM

[up]”And that’s how we ended up here, with all these new neighbors.”

“They’re probably thrilled to see you.”

“Hey, Nega, you should be happy I bought you along because last I checked it’s still illegal to show you in China. And Alabama.”

Edited by Beatman1 on May 22nd 2019 at 2:35:47 PM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#102847: May 22nd 2019 at 11:35:51 AM

[up][up]The best part about Deadpool as a character is that he'd totally roll with that. Seriously, I would not accept any other actor besides Ryan Reynolds now as DP. He's just too damn good at the role.

[up] He would miss some of his besties, though, so I would indeed hope that Negasonic and Vanessa would make the trip with him.

Edited by Fighteer on May 22nd 2019 at 2:36:35 PM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102848: May 22nd 2019 at 11:38:09 AM

I would like it if they didn't explain it at all. Just have Deadpool constantly remark about how his world change and how now new character turn up in it but "spidey will most likely never acknowledge me".

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#102849: May 22nd 2019 at 11:56:50 AM

Ryan Reynolds is the main reason the character made it to the film, so he basically as good as owns the role to me at this point.

[up]He's fourth-wall breaking enough that I'd love to see him comment on the merger at least in passing.

Edited by AlleyOop on May 22nd 2019 at 2:57:26 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#102850: May 22nd 2019 at 12:17:34 PM

[up]I just see him explaining it offscreen and we cut to him as he finishes explaining.


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