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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#102726: May 19th 2019 at 12:30:22 PM

I agree that Namor sounds like he would work better as a Wild Card who varies between ally and antagonist (depending on whether his goals align with the protagonist’s), rather than as a protagonist.

Edited by Galadriel on May 19th 2019 at 3:30:54 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#102727: May 19th 2019 at 12:32:56 PM

I could see them toning down his personalty entirely so he's nothing like the comic book counterpart,which would be a problem if they wanted to distingish him from Aquaman

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#102728: May 19th 2019 at 12:51:15 PM

The main thing that differentiates Namor from Aquaman is that he's an egocentric, abrasive, potentially misogynistic asshole, and I really hope that stays. Namor can't carry a movie by himself, he definitely shouldn't have a starring role, but he could be fantastic as a wildcard supporting character.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#102729: May 19th 2019 at 12:53:40 PM

It might be easier to use him that way too, since Universal still owns his movie rjghts. Iirc that's why Hulk has only had one solo movie , but has been in plenty of crossovers

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#102730: May 19th 2019 at 1:00:16 PM

The thing with the transition from comic book to silver screen is that something is always lost in between,Namor losing his attitude would be one such change,and another thing to consider is having a hero viewers are going to dislike is a hard sell

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102731: May 19th 2019 at 1:00:19 PM

Why should he be misogynistic? There is already more than enough of that going on in the MCU.

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#102732: May 19th 2019 at 1:01:23 PM

In the fandom sure,nobody would mourn the loss of that part of his personalty I suspect

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#102733: May 19th 2019 at 1:44:27 PM

Namor is a Villain Protagonist kind of hero. His douchebaggery is part of his charm, so to speak. Given the way the MCU approaches its heroes (the former category of Good Flaws, Bad Flaws at worst) I doubt they'd even let him lead a film without significantly toning him down, which would kind of remove the point.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#102734: May 19th 2019 at 1:49:49 PM

Yeah. Namor is going to be tough.

We probably won't see much of his support cast either (Namora, her younger clone Namorita, etc).

Actually, beyond his identically powered cousin and the younger clone daughter of said cousin, he doesn't really have much supporting cast does he?

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#102735: May 19th 2019 at 1:54:45 PM

He's often the one playing supporting cast, whether it's helping Cap, Bucky, and the Human Torch and Toro fight the Nazis, being a frenemy to the Fantastic Four due to his lust for Sue Storm, or posing as one of Black Panther's rivals, rather than leading his own series.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102736: May 19th 2019 at 1:55:18 PM

Just pair him with other heroes. He has Marrina though, and I guess Stingray as villain.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#102737: May 19th 2019 at 2:16:38 PM

I thought we all knew Namor would never be given his own film, so this conversation confused me for a bit.

Edited by VeryMelon on May 19th 2019 at 2:17:03 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102738: May 19th 2019 at 2:22:31 PM

did we? Though I guess Marvel already has so many franchises in the pipeline, having him as a recurring character might make more sense. Even if he IS one of the original six (I mean the first heroes which got the first Marvel TV show, which were Captain America, Thor, Namor, Ironman, Ant-man and Hulk).

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#102739: May 19th 2019 at 2:34:01 PM

I think the director of Dr. Strange 2 implied Namor would be in the film, which at least indicates that he will probably be more of a supporting anti-hero than a protagonist.

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#102740: May 19th 2019 at 2:34:34 PM

Never say never for you tempt fate that way

I'm just waiting for squirrel girl

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#102741: May 19th 2019 at 2:52:13 PM

Strange and Namor together eh? Maybe they're going for a Defenders film.

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#102742: May 19th 2019 at 3:00:36 PM

[up]That would be fun. Recruiting characters that wouldn’t normally interact?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#102743: May 19th 2019 at 3:04:51 PM

They did in the comics, although the Hulk was also a founding member of the Defenders and I doubt he'll show up.

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#102744: May 19th 2019 at 3:10:47 PM

There's also a rumor that Brother Voodoo and Clea will be in Dr. Strange 2. Honestly, Dr. Strange 2 is one of the MCU films I'm most excited for, considering the things we've heard about it combined with how awesome Dr. Strange was in Infinity War.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 19th 2019 at 3:11:19 AM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#102745: May 19th 2019 at 7:54:11 PM

My main exposure to Namor is as a Fantastic Four antagonist, and that's a role I could easily see working for him in the MCU.

The real question is if they'd let him keep his ability to fly thanks to those little wings on the sides of his ankles.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#102746: May 19th 2019 at 7:59:19 PM

Namor works perfectly as an antagonist & then a hard to work with Anti-Hero.

Not that he's an irredeemable person but person-wise he's a sack of shit for the most part.

Egotistical, violent, humohobic, does not respect the sanctity of marriage, etc. He is most definitely not a decent person by any stretch of the imagination.

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#102747: May 19th 2019 at 8:02:52 PM

Hasn't the guy who plays the Shredder in the new Live Action Ninja Turtle movies said he wants to play Namor?

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#102748: May 20th 2019 at 3:39:25 AM

> The real question is if they'd let him keep his ability to fly thanks to those little wings on the sides of his ankles.

only if he's at sea,he can fly a dolphin (except not really)

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#102749: May 20th 2019 at 3:44:15 AM

So when we were talking about Doctor Strange villains, the name Nightmare came up a lot.

What's his shtick exactly? I mean, I can assume he's a god of dreams, but is there something specific?

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