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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#102351: May 12th 2019 at 2:20:38 PM

How would people feel about Steve Carell being J. Jonah Jameson?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#102352: May 12th 2019 at 2:25:33 PM

Half the Internet would be Michael Scott memes and the other half would be Carell thirst memes.

Perfectly balanced.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on May 12th 2019 at 2:26:25 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#102353: May 12th 2019 at 2:26:31 PM

As all things should be.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
razorrozar7 Migrated to Chloe Jessica! from Chloe Jessica Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#102354: May 12th 2019 at 2:29:37 PM

tbh? id be good with carell. i feel like he could put his own spin on the character well enough to differentiate from JK.

also, if JK was portrayed as being exactly Michael Scott, that would be amazing.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#102355: May 12th 2019 at 2:32:07 PM

I could see him being a cross between Michael Scott and Evan Baxter

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#102356: May 12th 2019 at 2:36:47 PM

Nothing more scarier than a crazy person in charge. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#102357: May 12th 2019 at 2:37:35 PM

[up]something real life has been teaching us with a vengeance.

One Strip! One Strip!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#102358: May 12th 2019 at 2:43:44 PM

The bloke in charge isn't crazy. He's just evil, surrounded by stooges too greedy to tell him no, and taking out his whims on the people actually called "crazy" for wanting their ailments to be taken seriously.

/end rant. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on May 12th 2019 at 2:45:13 AM

razorrozar7 Migrated to Chloe Jessica! from Chloe Jessica Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#102359: May 12th 2019 at 2:45:13 PM

[up]we could have a debate about that, but this really isn't the place, and personally i would rather not get thumped.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#102360: May 12th 2019 at 2:53:23 PM

Its the first thing I found hilarious watching The Office, the fact Micheal Scott is quite clearly fucking insane.

The idea of these office people being tormented day in, day out by their mentally deranged boss is horrifyingly humorous.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#102361: May 12th 2019 at 4:01:57 PM

Yeah, I'm picturing Carrell, playing Michael Scott, shouting, "Get me pictures of Spider-Man!", and it's working for me.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#102362: May 12th 2019 at 8:33:33 PM

  1. JK Simmons is not too old. Michael Keaton is 67; Simmons is only 64. He could still play JJJ and probably should.
  2. That said, I am not adverse to other actors playing him as long as they are a) good actors and b) something different from Simmons' portrayal.
  3. I can totally see JJJ as the host of Fact Channel News and also runs the "Daily Bugle app" which allows anyone to take pictures and upload it to the Daily Bugle Social Media account and become their own (unpaid) reporter.
  4. At which point, Peter would definitely be able to get some attention for all the good Spider-Man photos he's able to take. And since the Daily Bugle owns all the pictures uploaded through the app, he would own Peter's pictures...
  5. ...until Peter realizes this and stops doing it, forcing JJJ to give him a job: official Daily Bugle Social Media adviser. And occasional photographer.

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#102363: May 12th 2019 at 8:54:02 PM

So, on another note, what would a Spielberg-written MCU film be like? Just wondering what he could bring to this universe.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#102364: May 12th 2019 at 8:58:34 PM

Captain America: The First Avenger is probably the closest to what a Spielberg directed MCU film would be like. Mostly because Joe Johnston's work has often been compared to Spielberg's, for better and for worse.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#102365: May 12th 2019 at 9:48:26 PM

So... I met Taika Waititi today. This was at a showing of Merata (which is on Netflix too.)

Not for very long, the theater staff was trying to shoo us all out and I got to ask zero questions about any of the Marvel movies but he liked my anecdote about friends overseas and signed my Ragnarok DVD.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#102366: May 12th 2019 at 9:50:55 PM

On J. Jonah Jameson: I still like my idea of him being the MCU's John Oliver.

Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#102367: May 12th 2019 at 10:06:46 PM

[up] Certainly better than Alex Jones. J Jonah Jameson is the kind of asshole you want to keep around as long as possible, not wish him to be permanently banned from the news media.

And it would be a great opportunity to see Jameson tackle down a real criminal rather just Spider-Man like he did in the comics. Such as the Kingpin.

Edited by Shadao on May 12th 2019 at 10:07:11 AM

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#102368: May 12th 2019 at 11:29:38 PM

"Spider-Man isn't even a superhero, he's just a weird masked pervert wearing red-and-blue tights, which I have to point out, just makes him look like an even more horrifying knockoff of Pepsiman covered in dirty cobwebs, therefore I must presume that Tony Stark found him in a closet in an long-abandoned Pepsi factory somewhere, feasting on the delicious innards of orphaned children, just like real spiders do. What the fuck is wrong with you, Spider-Man? WHAT. IS. WRONG. WITH. YOU?!"

Edited by Nightwire on May 12th 2019 at 11:32:33 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#102369: May 12th 2019 at 11:32:39 PM

So, on another note, what would a Spielberg-written MCU film be like?

I keep thinking the Power Pack would be good for him.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102370: May 12th 2019 at 11:50:51 PM

I don't see JJJ being like John Oliver, because John Oliver cares about informing people above all, while JJJ mostly cares about, well, clickbait. JJJ has also a tendency to be very conservative.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#102371: May 12th 2019 at 11:54:23 PM

JJJ's something of a hypocrite, politically. He cares deeply about the truth and honest, justice in journalism when it comes to some topics, but throws that out the window when it comes to his ego topics.

It makes his actual politics difficult to glean, because what exactly he believes can change based on what's easier to use to blame Spider-Man.

I do remember comics Jameson being staunchly pro-civil rights for everyone who isn't Spider-Man (including mutants) and pro-unions, though.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 12th 2019 at 11:56:41 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#102372: May 12th 2019 at 11:56:22 PM

Yeah that's J.J. biggest issue, a hate-boner for Spidey bigger than Galactus.

The mere mention of Spider-Man just drives him up the fucking wall.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#102373: May 12th 2019 at 11:56:37 PM

And, at any rate, John Oliver is just the host of a single show. Jameson's role has always been as the management of a news organization. Like, a less-wealthy Rupert Murdoch would be a more apt comparison.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#102374: May 12th 2019 at 11:56:42 PM

He's got a Spidey-shaped blindspot. In the comics, the only exception to this is whenever the Scorpion is involved. JJ never blames Spidey for Scorpion related messes, because JJ is the one who created the Scorpion.

Disgusted, but not surprised
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#102375: May 13th 2019 at 12:03:37 AM

How he responds to Scorpion is also a good way to tell what the writer thinks about the character. Does he avoid Scorpion because he doesn't want anyone to find out their connection? Then you're probably dealing with "cowardly skinflint" Jameson. Does he avoid Scorpion because the whole debacle is an Old Shame? Then you're probably dealing with "asshole, but still with redeeming qualities" Jameson. Does he avoid Scorpion because he actually blames himself and feels its not right to blame Spider-Man? Then you're dealing with one of his more noble showings.


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