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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#102327: May 12th 2019 at 11:01:07 AM

I would 100% be down for an Alex Jones version of Jameson.

That's basically what his podcast in the PS 4 game was, and it was amazing.

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#102328: May 12th 2019 at 11:07:31 AM

J Jonah Jameson was always stand-in for the typical, irrational newsmonger who controls the media's perception of Spider-Man... as well as being an in-joke amongst the Marvel Comics team of how they felt about their daily routine at the office, with Jameson being the less flattering side of Stan Lee.

However, his initial portrayal has soften to show he has good qualities overtime. I presume that, like Flash Thompson, it didn't make sense to keep him around if he remained unsympathetic and useless to actual news reporting.

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#102329: May 12th 2019 at 11:19:48 AM

Jameson gets his occasional Pet the Dog moments. But they are far overshadowed by his awful bits. Up to and including commissioning his own supervillain to defeat Spider-Man.

Edited by TobiasDrake on May 12th 2019 at 12:21:45 PM

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#102330: May 12th 2019 at 11:20:12 AM

Multiple times

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#102331: May 12th 2019 at 11:21:24 AM

Jim Carrey could make a good Jonah Jameson I think

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#102332: May 12th 2019 at 11:21:52 AM

The Ultimate comics probably had the nicest Jameson. He actually does a 180, decides he was wrong about Spider-Man, and makes efforts to make amends.

But those exceptions are rare. More often are things like when Spider-Man joined the Avengers so Jameson declared the Avengers Ruined Forever and shifted his focus to attacking all of them, or when Spider-Man publicly unmasked and Jameson sued Peter Parker for defrauding the paper.

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#102333: May 12th 2019 at 11:23:32 AM

I am 100% down for crazy-Alex-Jones-podcast JJJ.

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#102334: May 12th 2019 at 11:26:25 AM

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Edited by Draghinazzo on May 12th 2019 at 2:26:37 PM

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#102335: May 12th 2019 at 11:31:11 AM

Jameson gets his occasional Pet the Dog moments. But they are far overshadowed by his awful bits. Up to and including commissioning his own supervillain to defeat Spider-Man.

Silver Age Jameson, yeah. Modern Jameson's been a increasingly decent guy for a few decades, now.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 12th 2019 at 11:31:21 AM

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#102336: May 12th 2019 at 11:47:21 AM

Well, there is a wide spectrum to mine.

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#102337: May 12th 2019 at 11:50:35 AM

Silver Age Jameson, yeah. Modern Jameson's been a increasingly decent guy for a few decades, now.

Modern Jameson sued Peter Parker for being Spider-Man, slandered the Avengers as an institution for recruiting Spider-Man, and created a Spider-hunting militarized task force when he became Mayor of NYC. Among other things.

A sympathetic moment here or there doesn't change the deranged vendetta he has against Spider-Man that has long transcended the realm of reason or sanity. He has the capacity for human decency and even some positive traits that come out from time to time, but as soon as Spider-Man's involved, he lightswitches into frothing lunacy.

Edited by TobiasDrake on May 12th 2019 at 12:52:05 PM

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#102338: May 12th 2019 at 11:54:43 AM

when Spider-Man publicly unmasked and Jameson sued Peter Parker for defrauding the paper.

I mean, he's not wrong

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#102339: May 12th 2019 at 11:55:36 AM

Didn’t Spidey just recently unmask to JJ in the last couple months or something? And it was played in the same way as the Ultimate unmasking?

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#102340: May 12th 2019 at 12:01:19 PM

You know, I just started thinking about JJJ as a Stephen Colbert- or John Oliver-type, and I actually kinda like it...?

...Holy shit, JJJ would fit John Oliver's schtick really well.

Edited by Nightwire on May 12th 2019 at 12:05:42 PM

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#102342: May 12th 2019 at 12:40:15 PM

[up][up][up]i think the event people are talking about is the civil war one, where peter unmasked to show his support for the registration law. jonah reacted... poorly.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#102343: May 12th 2019 at 12:54:10 PM

Jameson gets hit by the problem Flash Thompson or Magneto does: he's by and large portrayed as having undergone character development, but occasional a more classical minded writer will decide they liked him better when he was a jerk/villain and forcibly write him as a complete asshole, setting him back for other writers to have to repeat that character development.

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#102344: May 12th 2019 at 1:20:23 PM

i mean, even with the character development, i feel like it's pretty normal for someone to react poorly to realize someone they trusted has been deceiving them all along.

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#102345: May 12th 2019 at 1:41:05 PM

That court case between the two was funny especially when Spidey joked that Jameson was a racist.

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#102346: May 12th 2019 at 1:49:52 PM

He very nearly almost said that some of his best friends were black before stopping himself

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#102347: May 12th 2019 at 1:58:28 PM

I heard that they were considering Ice Cube to play JJJ, but this was before Homecoming, so who knows if they still have him in mind (realistically, the best option would be JK Simmons, but they might not want people to confuse this one with the Raimi Spider-Man films).

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#102348: May 12th 2019 at 2:06:33 PM

[up]JK is such a Tough Act to Follow, though. if it's not him, the new actor will inevitably fall short compared to him, unless they change the portrayal so radically that it doesn't evoke JK's portrayal at all.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#102349: May 12th 2019 at 2:12:49 PM

JK Simmons is too old for the role either way. They need an actor they can use at least a decade or so. I also don't think that his version of the character fits into the MCU version of Spiderman. The characters are more layered than that.

Edited by Swanpride on May 12th 2019 at 2:13:28 AM

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#102350: May 12th 2019 at 2:15:46 PM

[up][up] the video game got around it by having Darin De Paul doing his best JK Simmons impression, with a bit of Alex Jones thrown in for Flavor.

Sound-Alikes really only work in an animated format though.

Edited by megaeliz on May 12th 2019 at 5:27:12 AM


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