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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#102151: May 8th 2019 at 2:34:00 PM

The same episode had this gem that briefly got revived as a meme about Tesla owners. "Fuel is for LESSER MEN! My vehicle NEEDS NO GAS!"

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on May 8th 2019 at 2:42:53 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#102152: May 8th 2019 at 2:37:38 PM

he could just fly there but their budget did not exist

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Misiael Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#102153: May 8th 2019 at 4:31:45 PM

Marvel Studios plans to reveal one of its characters is gay

  • sigh*

You went full J.K. Rowling, Marvel. You never go full J.K. Rowling.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#102154: May 8th 2019 at 4:36:58 PM

I mean, if it's Carol Danvers, that would be fine, since there were already pretty big hints. Anyone else...eh, probably not.

[up] No, going Full JK Rowling is telling people on Twitter that a character is gay and never showing it in the books or movies.

Edited by alliterator on May 8th 2019 at 4:37:32 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#102155: May 8th 2019 at 4:38:18 PM

Its captain Falcon

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#102156: May 8th 2019 at 4:39:08 PM

All that happened is an interviewer asked the Russos if any other characters are gay and they responded “that’s a story for another time.” No reveal guaranteed.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#102157: May 8th 2019 at 4:41:04 PM

If you want to have gay characters, make it explicit in the work.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#102158: May 8th 2019 at 4:43:06 PM

I higher going full Rowling is out of nowhere revealing some innocuous fact or retcon that either makes no sense beforehand or is just weird.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#102159: May 8th 2019 at 5:23:13 PM

Their "insinuations" are probably referring to things like Valkyrie or the character in Eternals. I wouldn't take much stock in it. In fact, this kind of commentary is dangerously veering on queerbait, the real kind.

As in, promising LGBT content that never materializes. Not the way it's become hijacked by modern shippers who become obsessed with a particular same-gender couple, then outraged over it not being explicitly canon, even if the creators never promised to deliver in the first place, and even in some cases is downright cracky compared to the Official Couple.

The MCU certainly has a lot of such fans, like Stony shippers who got mad at Civil War for "baiting" them only to have the two portrayed as enemies, or Stucky shippers upset that Steve married Peggy when she's always been the official love interest and romantic Stucky was never promised to them. It's fine to have ship preferences but in these cases they baited themselves with false expectations.

Although, just watch as they reveal that Sam has priapism, Bucky is an intersex trans man, or Sharon is a licensed member of the Official Monster Raving Loony Party.

Edited by AlleyOop on May 8th 2019 at 8:46:47 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#102160: May 8th 2019 at 5:38:02 PM

-googles priapism-

ow,do not want

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GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#102161: May 8th 2019 at 5:39:03 PM

So after seeing the film again with my family, I think I can say. I prefer Infinity War over Endgame.

Kaze ni Nare!
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#102162: May 8th 2019 at 5:45:07 PM

Loki in the comics is Bisexual, they could do the same in the movies.

Although to be fair, even being bisexual, Loki seems to prefer women.

The list of "girlfriends" that Loki has had in the comics seems to be Lorelei, Sigyn and Amora (Axis Event).

Edited by JoLuRo075 on May 8th 2019 at 5:48:44 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#102163: May 8th 2019 at 5:46:12 PM

let's face it could be Thor instead

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#102164: May 8th 2019 at 5:46:14 PM

Pansexual, and genderfluid. Loki, that is.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on May 8th 2019 at 5:46:28 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#102165: May 8th 2019 at 5:47:17 PM

If they somehow do deliver, I'm expecting it to be a minor female character due to the Double Standard. Maybe the Black Widow in Agent Carter's UST with Peggy was legit.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#102166: May 8th 2019 at 5:47:28 PM

Did Loki himself kickstart him being horse pregnant I wonder.

[up] Whatever it is if it does happen, expect people to throw a hissy fit.

Edited by slimcoder on May 8th 2019 at 5:48:09 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#102167: May 8th 2019 at 5:50:33 PM

Anyway, even if mcu Loki is bisexual, I'm sure that if someday they give him a love interest, this will be a woman. (But Not Too Bi)

Edited by JoLuRo075 on May 8th 2019 at 5:53:23 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#102168: May 8th 2019 at 5:54:36 PM

@That Magneto car clip: I know the sound effect is meant to represent Magneto using his power to levitate the car, but I had a lot of fun imagining that it was just an unholy screeching as Magneto scraped his car's helicopter landing bars along the road.

Like, Magneto just drives up to a gas station, all smooth and slick, while his car goes "screeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH". He boasts that his car doesn't need gas, and he uses his magnetism powers to drive it away with a trumphant "SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeech". You know when Magneto's in town because you can hear the distant sound of an ominous "screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech".

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#102169: May 8th 2019 at 6:36:53 PM

I watched Endgame a second time as well, and while it's a really good movie, it's not in my A+ tier. I realized how much I value a coherent, mostly complete story. Both of my favorites, Black Panther and Winter Soldier, are better in that regard.

As for the Magneto clip, Weekly Tube Show did a parody of that story a couple years ago. The part with the gun, the last episode of their 3 part series, is definitely the funniest.
You may also recognize Remix, who voices Magneto, as the Dragon Ball Z Abridged voices of Kami, Android 16, and Broly.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on May 8th 2019 at 9:06:03 AM

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#102170: May 8th 2019 at 6:50:08 PM

I actually kinda think the action in Infinity War is better than in Endgame too.

Which I know is herasy.

Kaze ni Nare!
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#102171: May 8th 2019 at 7:01:15 PM

[up][up] I kinda liked Spider-Verse more than any recent MCU Films, honestly.

Edited by megaeliz on May 8th 2019 at 10:02:44 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#102172: May 8th 2019 at 7:03:02 PM

They are not really comparable especially since one is animated.

Spider-Verse is stand-alone also.

Edited by slimcoder on May 8th 2019 at 7:03:36 AM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#102173: May 8th 2019 at 7:04:56 PM

[up][up][up]It was, though.

  • Endgame had Cap vs Thanos (as its best moment), and the big chaotic battle where no one really stood out or showed off, except for a couple of shots that looked nice as stills (or a gif, for Iron Man/Rescue). It did also have a better score
  • Infinity War had more fights, and it did more with them, where we actually got to see what people could do. Standouts included Ebony Maw vs Doctor Strange, and the Titan fight, specifically the Thanos vs. Doctor Strange part. It also had more compelling and varied use of environment in battles, and was easier to see in its big battle.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on May 8th 2019 at 9:11:08 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#102174: May 8th 2019 at 7:06:59 PM

You are aware no spoilers from Endgame right?

Either spoiler cap that or remove it.

Edited by slimcoder on May 8th 2019 at 7:07:17 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#102175: May 8th 2019 at 7:10:39 PM

The directors themselves have dropped the spoiler embargo and released trailers with some of that same information. They MCU even made spoilers required knowledge for the Spider-Man Far From Home trailer. I "spoiled" nothing except for stating that Thanos fights a specific individual for a couple seconds. Anything else is either not plot important, or It Was His Sled-type knowledge by Word of God.

But fine.

Edit: Huh. Someone on This Very Wiki has already made the Spider Man Far From Home trailer the page quote for Late-Arrival Spoiler.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on May 8th 2019 at 9:24:35 AM


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