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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
But Marvel has been trying to recreate the formula of Spider-Man dozens of times over the years, from Nova to Speedball to Gravity, none of them quite worked out the same way that Kamala did.
I'm not saying that Kamala is exactly the same as Peter Parker, but they were made using the same mold.
Edited by alliterator on May 6th 2019 at 10:05:10 AM
....People got beef with Toby?
....what the hell did he do?
And it's funny because it's Toby's Spiderman movies that are getting all the references lately: Shout outs in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse and Spider-Man (PS4) and all.
Plus, people like his first two movies better than both of Garfield's.
One Strip! One Strip!Oh no.
He had to have done something: considering the rash of Sexual Harassment scandals among celebrities in the past few years, I find it hard to believe people are just lashing out at him for no reason.
He's not even annoying like Shia Lebouf or anything.
One Strip! One Strip!I googled "Toby Maguire creep" and this is what I got.
It's from last year.
As a reprieve from the Endgame/Far From Home discussion, here is a legal analysis of the Sokovia Accords by a practicing US attorney. And yes, this is a tie-in of sorts to the "One Marvelous Scene" collab project.
Tl;dw the Sokovia Accords would be unconstitutional in the United States for a variety of reasons.
I commented on Legal Eagle's video because some people were arguing about whether Steve or Tony was right, and I pointed out that the video is only about the legality of the accords, not their moral basis.
As for the MCU version of Peter Parker, I like it. We don't need the same backstory rehashed over and over and over (*cough* paging Batman writers). Marvel has shown that it can give these characters a fresh take while still remaining true to the core themes of the comics, and that's very much the case here.
To be frank, while I do enjoy the original Spider-Man comics and all of the Sony films (even the Garfield ones, although Spider-Man 3 was ... problematic), I found the constant return to Peter as a hard-luck hero who can't ever do anything good without it being stripped from him in the most cruel and ironic way possible off-putting after the eleven or twelve millionth time it happened. Spidey is best when he's the underdog hero fighting impossible odds with sheer strength of will, and that's why the Homecoming version is so great. Never mind the ending; the scene in the collapsed building is the true essence of the character. Like Carol's confrontation with the Supreme Intelligence in Captain Marvel, it's the emotional climax.
Edited by Fighteer on May 6th 2019 at 3:01:19 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I dunno. I mean, I think Homecoming is a great kid hero movie, probably the best live action kid superhero movie out there, but I wouldn’t say it does so by being at all true to the themes of the character. The themes and motivations that drive the character in the films are highly unique to him, and are by and large a departure from Spider-Man as a character (sometimes in very drastic ways): he’s basically an entirely different beast. Hence my saying that thematically it’s a better Kamala Khan movie than a Spider-Man one.
Heck, when it released there was a gag about it.m being a good Robin movie, and it was a joke but there’s a hint of truth to it. Homecoming is somewhat close to what a lighthearted Tim Drake Robin film might look like.
Off the subject of themes, though, I can’t wait to see how Peter screws up his relationship with MJ. If they’re showing them get together and showing us that she knows he’s Spidey in the trailer, that means something is going to go seriously awry in the film itself.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 6th 2019 at 12:08:52 PM
While I'm not a lawyer, and haven't watched the whole video, the point about saying the government couldn't compel people to reveal their secret identities ("make a certain form of speech") seems wrong. The government can compel people to testify in court, after all, only letting them out of it if certain protections (right not to self-incriminate, spousal privilege) prevent it.
Peter has enough love interests that they probably don’t need to. They could pull a James Bond and just give him a different one in every movie, and still not run out for a while.
In fact, I’m a little surprised they bothered to make MJ an OC. I could’ve bought her as Carlie Cooper.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 6th 2019 at 12:12:28 PM
Except everyone hates Carlie Cooper because she was the Creator's Pet of the guy that had Spidey sell his marriage to the devil.
Which still happened, still hasn’t been retconned, etc.
Just watched the new Spidey trailer and....yeaaah, not really into it so far.
The talk about becoming Iron Man's successor, the multiverse, magic..... Is this really a SPIDER-MAN movie, we're talking about here?
I mean, I don't mind Pete participating in big crossovers, but his own solo movies oughta be a bit more down to earth and relatable, in my opinion.
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True on a superficial level, but the themes of community - both on a neighborhood scale and on a personal, friendship scale - are far stronger themes for Kamala and MCU Peter than they ever were for comics Peter.
A good way to put it is that while Peter is the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, that's more in the sense that he's a street level hero. Whereas a primary trait of Kamala and her comics is that she is part of a neighborhood and influenced by the multitude of personal relationships around her.
As a result the Breakfast Club leanings and tropes therein resonate significantly better for Kamala as a character than they do for Peter, who has always been more about balancing his own self-driven nature with forging those connections with others in the first place.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 6th 2019 at 9:53:31 AM