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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#101701: May 1st 2019 at 12:00:29 PM

[up]Probably the former. Bots are not very good at their jobs.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#101702: May 1st 2019 at 12:05:04 PM

Btw, it's not a surprise but the MCU has officially crossed the 20 billion mark.

And Endgame is now in the top eight of the highest grossing movies of all time.

Edited by Swanpride on May 1st 2019 at 12:07:50 PM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#101703: May 1st 2019 at 12:11:08 PM

[up][up] Well, YouTube recommendations are controlled by very complex algorithms, but one of the factors (as I understand) is that people watching a particular video will then go on to watch another video. "A lot of people watch X after Y, so since you watched Y we're going to recommend X to you."

So it's not unlikely that followers of these hate channels also watch a lot of interviews and other material about Brie Larson because they fixate on the object of their anger. This then causes YT to associate the two and there we are. Knowing this, said people might even deliberately attempt to manipulate the algorithms.

Edited by Fighteer on May 1st 2019 at 3:14:28 PM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#101704: May 1st 2019 at 2:34:26 PM

The funny part comes when i watched interviews that didn't have Brie Larson in.

Well technically one where she was with Renner. Which many people point out was awkward (it wasn't)

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#101705: May 1st 2019 at 2:58:53 PM

With bots, my understanding is a lot of them often mistakenly group opposing ideas together, usually due to word association and the fact that opposites can be intrinsically linked (for example, impossibility and inevitability are both probabilities).

For example, a computer might group atheists and theists together, because they might both mention "God" and "The Bible" a lot, and they both like to talk about the existence of God. So, from the computer's standpoint, they appear to be the same group.

Same thing would go with talking about Captain Marvel and Brie Larson-it just groups together all sides of the 'debate' since they clearly all like talking about Brie Larson.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#101706: May 1st 2019 at 3:59:51 PM

Would Klaue coming back in his sonic form for BP 2 be too much orrrrrr just right?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#101707: May 1st 2019 at 4:36:31 PM

It might be for the Black Panther films, as weird as that is to say. Unlike the comics, the films keep rigid to certain themes and kinds of bad guys: Guardians do space opera Flash Gordon stuff, Thor does fantasy themed villainy, Cap does political conspiracies, etc.

All of them eschew parts of the characters' comics mythoses to strictly keep the theme, and Black Panther's theme is more "warriors with super-tech and spiritual connections" and less "full scale energy beings." I could see it happening with a less major bad guy, but probably not with Klawe since he'd have to be front and center.

Plus the dude got shot in the face.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#101708: May 1st 2019 at 4:48:03 PM

I wonder if they would include Storm in BP 2 or at least tease her...

Just Makima.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#101709: May 1st 2019 at 4:59:15 PM

Maybe, but probably not. While it would be a decent place to introduce her prior to the X-Men (which imo they should do in general) T'Challa already has a love interest, and if they didn't changes horses with Iron Man, they won't with T'Challa.

Which is just as well. Storm / T'Challa was an overall poor idea.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#101710: May 1st 2019 at 5:03:39 PM

If they do implement it somehow they could portray it as it was supposed to be originally, as a fling between children not meant to become something truly real.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#101711: May 1st 2019 at 5:04:50 PM

That said, I like the idea of introducing Storm in Black Panther 2 in a non-romantic context.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#101712: May 1st 2019 at 6:49:41 PM

If BP 2 has superpowered villains (like Zenzi and Tetu), T'Challa might look towards recruiting superpowered people — much like he did in the comics with the Crew (which included Luke Cage, Misty Knight, Storm, and Manifold).

Edited by alliterator on May 1st 2019 at 6:49:49 AM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#101713: May 1st 2019 at 9:17:50 PM

WELL THEN. I saw Endgame finally.

Hoo boy...this is a lot to take in, and definitely not something I can put too coherently into text at the moment.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#101714: May 2nd 2019 at 6:55:24 AM

[up] I hear you. I watched it Saturday and I still haven't gotten around to collecting my thoughts, it's that mind-blowing (though I'm also busy with life, so that's a thing).

Anyway!

In an unexpected twist of events, Spider-Matriarch Amy Pascal is leaving Sony for Universal.

Funny story, I actually brainstormed a scenario that when Deadpool appears in the MCU, he'd make a crack about whether he had to kiss up to Kevin Feige or Amy Pascal to finally have a team-up movie with Spider-Man, but I guess Amy Pascal leaving Sony puts the kibosh on that gag ever happening.

I actually don't feel too beat up about this since she did some pretty dodgy things at Sony.

(Wistfully remembers Genndy Tartakovsky's Popeye movie...)

Now if we could get rid of Avi Arad or at least quit making anti-heroes wear the same dark clothes over and over and over again, I think we'll be set for life in terms of Spidey's cinematic future. evil grin

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 2nd 2019 at 9:56:49 AM

JRads47 Since: Nov, 2014
#101715: May 2nd 2019 at 12:08:13 PM

If Arad leaves then we can finally get Spider-Man 4

ExplosiveIsamu00 Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#101716: May 2nd 2019 at 5:14:57 PM

[up]Put Ben Reilly in it and I'M ABSOLUTELY GAME.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#101717: May 3rd 2019 at 3:27:16 AM

You know, I thought I could ignore the Anti-Sjws for a while but they really make it difficult…

They have now started a petition to have Brie Larson step down from playing Captain Marvel.

They are ruining our fandom!!!! We never had this kind of BS in the past! There has to be some way to make clear that those s...-stirrers don't speak for us. Not towards Disney, they will only pay attention to box office anyway, but towards other fandoms. They are giving our fandom a bad name, and they aren't even part of it.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#101718: May 3rd 2019 at 3:28:36 AM

your giving them attention,just ignore,pretend you can't hear then

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#101719: May 3rd 2019 at 3:29:14 AM

Is the petition even popular enough to be worth spending attention on it? There's a lot of petitions for a lot of stuff, a lot of them just don't take off.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#101720: May 3rd 2019 at 3:35:40 AM

Okay, this is even more idiotic...apparently the petition calls for her being replaced with a "black gay character" trying to make it out as if this is an "SJW" petition, so that they can then go and complain about it.

And ignoring them is pretty much impossible because if you don't jump ahead of them and make clear that this is another fake news they spread, people pick this sh... up as real. So, if you read somewhere "SJ Ws want Captain Marvel replaced"...yeah, don't fall for it.

Edited by Swanpride on May 3rd 2019 at 3:36:22 AM

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#101721: May 3rd 2019 at 4:20:12 AM

Eh, I am just as irritated as you are with their nonsense, but we all know this petition won't make it far and will go nowhere, so really let's ignore it. I mean, who even remembers that petition they did to ask that the Last Jedi was retconned away? With some luck, that petition will fail so hard they will finally be shown to not represent the majority of the fans.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#101722: May 3rd 2019 at 6:01:46 AM

[up] The point here is more that they are now creating their OWN drama because they are running out of stories to twist (since the press tour is over and everyone is happy with endgame). Usually the more onward to greener pastures when one of their campaigns failed, but this time I doubt that they will ever stop.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#101724: May 3rd 2019 at 7:24:11 AM

[up] Hope you are right...and that I'll find eventually some think-pieces regarding Captain Marvel which are really about examining the movie and not peddling BS.

I mean, I thought to listen to some Endgame essays, and literally the first one I clicked basically started with a rant that Captain Marvel can breath in Space. And communicate in space.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#101725: May 3rd 2019 at 7:31:21 AM

I guess the writers figured that being one of the most powerful characters in the franchise gives her a license to breath in space, like Thor and Hulk. Plus, she was powered by the Space Stone, so there's that.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on May 3rd 2019 at 7:31:55 AM

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