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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#101101: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:44:13 PM

Okay, question time: who is the scariest MCU villain to you?

To me, weirdly, it's the Vulture. Just because of that scene of him, Peter, and Liz in the car. Where the tension is ratcheted up to a thousand. And the light slowly turns green as you figure out that he's figured out who, exactly, Peter is.

Edited by alliterator on Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:45:21 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#101102: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:45:40 PM

Probably Vulture for me, too. Maybe one of the tv show villains over him, but if it's just the movies, Vulture might take it.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#101103: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:48:24 PM

Oh yes. If we're including TV villains, probably Kilgrave, but solely movies, it's the Vulture. Which is weird, because he's also the most human villain...but I think that's also what makes him scarier, too? The more human a villain is, the more you can see them in real life.

Edited by alliterator on Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:49:12 AM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#101104: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:48:58 PM

If we're extending to the TV/Netflix series, Kilgrave takes the grand prize. Especially if you've been a victim of an abusive relationship/household, he's terrifying because of just how close his actions and methods hit to home.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#101105: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:49:03 PM

Ego. Jesus Christ, the way he casually explains everything to Peter.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#101106: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:50:26 PM

Thanos was indeed a motherfucking boss.

Though damn that Vulture car ride was nerve-wracking.

Puts a new spin on "Meet the parents."

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#101107: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:54:03 PM

Oh yeah, Ego is neck-and-neck with Thanos for the most monstrous character in the movies.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#101108: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:56:27 PM

The Reveal of the mass grave full of the bones of Ego's children (whom he murdered because they weren't useful to him) was especially unnerving.

Edited by M84 on Apr 22nd 2019 at 11:58:55 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#101109: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:56:44 PM

Ego. Jesus Christ, the way he casually explains everything to Peter.

Yeah, it's gotta be Ego. The entire concept of his character and his personality is terrifying.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#101110: Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:59:02 PM

"And, to ease his conscience, I told him I would never hurt them. That was true. They never felt a thing."

Edited by M84 on Apr 22nd 2019 at 11:59:23 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#101111: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:10:53 PM

Winter Soldier, Ego, Vulture, and Hela. And if HYDRA as a whole counts, then HYDRA in Winter Soldier. Even Pierce got a shocking moment of danger without any combat ability.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:19:02 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#101112: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:18:21 PM

It we include TV shows: Aida, hands down. Absolutely terrifying. Kilgrave has more the highest creep level.

In the movies...honestly, none of the movie villains have terrified me per se. The supreme intelligence creeped me out the most but the thing with the movie villains is usually there is some sort of rhythm to them. To put it differently: You just know when they will be defeated, and since the movies have a limited run-time the best most of those villains can be is entertaining in the meantime.

Hydra in general is pretty great, though, since it isn't really defeatable.

Edited by Swanpride on Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:18:58 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#101113: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:28:21 PM

Just a reminder that while watching Endgame, we should remember to silently make a toast in memory to Oreo.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#101114: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:29:40 PM

;_;

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#101115: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:33:51 PM

Speaking of toasts to the deceased, I wonder if Stan Lee's cameos were filmed far enough in advance that we'll see one last one here in Endgame.

It'd be really fitting.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#101116: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:37:46 PM

Here's to hoping Gonzo, Rizzo, Archie, and Reggie have a few good years ahead of them.

Disgusted, but not surprised
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#101117: Apr 22nd 2019 at 9:59:00 PM

[up][up] Kevin Feige has stated that Stan Lee's last cameo will be in Endgame. I guess they didn't have time to film one for Far From Home or, if they did, they decided not to use it.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#101118: Apr 22nd 2019 at 10:41:04 PM

Kilgrave is the scariest MCU villain to me with Hela a close second.

GmCommand Since: Jul, 2018
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#101121: Apr 22nd 2019 at 11:51:07 PM

Man, Brie Larson has been killing it with her outfits.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#101122: Apr 23rd 2019 at 12:06:18 AM

Kilgrave is a great villain for the narrative but his threat factor kinda got defanged for me a bit by the end. I'm not just talking about the Simpson proposal of putting a bullet in him and calling it a day, I mean they capture him no less than three times before the finale, and the only reason he escapes the latter two times is due to the heroes (and Robyn) making really stupid decisions without even being brainwashed into them.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#101123: Apr 23rd 2019 at 12:43:05 AM

Yeah, pretty much. He is creepy, but what is creepy is more what he stands for than what he is, if that makes any sense.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#101124: Apr 23rd 2019 at 1:06:14 AM

For me, it's Alexander Pierce. First off, I find the idea of a secret organization worming its way into legitimate ones and using them as tools for its own ends appallingly believable, if not on the scale of HYDRA. Now,on to Pierce himself. The idea of someone in a position of authority, someone charming, affable, charismatic, seemingly reasonable and easy to believe, being perfectly willing to slaughter 20 million people to bring the other 7 billion in line? That scares me a lot more than some purple guy with a ball-sack for a chin, because I can see it happening. I don't have to suspend my disbelief very much to see HYDRA's plot as a real threat, or feel betrayed by Pierce, who seemed like exactly the kind of Reasonable Authority Figure you'd need to stop it.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#101125: Apr 23rd 2019 at 1:12:17 AM

The creepiest bit with Pierce is when he says good night to his maid in a manner indicating that they have a fairly cordial relationship, only to murder her when she unexpectedly comes back to pick something up and sees the Winter Soldier. And he says it in a manner indicating that he feels a little bad about it, but not that bad.

Edited by M84 on Apr 23rd 2019 at 4:12:45 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

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