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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#100451: Apr 12th 2019 at 6:34:57 PM

Doesn't the Xandarian Ronan executes at the start of GOTG bleed blue, just like the Kree?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#100452: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:34:25 PM

Doublepost, but did anyone see that Scarlett Johansen was on Hot Ones in celebration of Endgame coming out this month?

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#100453: Apr 13th 2019 at 1:06:24 PM

Okay, fuck it, that backlog is just too big.

Did we talked already about the animated Captain Peggy what if? Because more Peggy is just what I need to keep my interest in this franchise alive after Endgame, she was one of the best thing in the first movie.

Also, with the What If animation confirmed, here's what I want: Colleen Wing being the Iron Fist, with Sword of the Stranger-esque sword fighting!

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#100454: Apr 13th 2019 at 1:17:16 PM

What if the Netflix shows got another season?

What if the Agents of SHIELD met the Avengers?

What if the Wasp was on the Avengers?

What if the Hulk was always played by the same actor?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#100455: Apr 13th 2019 at 2:22:37 PM

[up][up] Have you seen Iron Fist season two? Because it ends with Colleen Wing AS the Iron Fist.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#100456: Apr 13th 2019 at 2:26:49 PM

I know, I just rather she started out as the Iron Fist, preferably with the ability to coat her katana with Dragon Chi.

What I'm trying to say is, I want a version of Iron Fist that annoying blond cunt version of Danny Rand gone, and the easiest way to do that is to just give the title to someone else, preferably on of the few good characters from that trainwreck of a show.

Besides, how much we actually saw of Colleen being the Iron Fist, anyway?

Edited by HailMuffins on Apr 13th 2019 at 6:27:30 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100457: Apr 13th 2019 at 2:28:48 PM

I would rather get more of her....

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#100458: Apr 13th 2019 at 2:34:14 PM

“preferably with the ability to coat her katana with Dragon Chi”

Iron F-sword. Iron Samurai

Wait, I think katanas are more typically made of steel

Edited by Bocaj on Apr 13th 2019 at 5:34:40 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#100459: Apr 13th 2019 at 2:36:50 PM

Well, she could use a Wooden Katana to show off, and save the Steel one for when shit gets serious.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#100460: Apr 13th 2019 at 2:44:02 PM

There was a character from a manga I like that used a wooden katana as a weapon and then wrapped it in a snake shaped band of psychic energy so that it could actually do damage to the nonsense she fought

The principle is sound

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#100461: Apr 13th 2019 at 3:11:09 PM

Meh. I'd want more Danny if I had to pick.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#100462: Apr 13th 2019 at 3:15:54 PM

[up]Same here. We never got to see him use the Immortal Weapons. But what is done is done.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#100463: Apr 13th 2019 at 3:16:24 PM

Ditto.

But hey, why not more of both?

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#100464: Apr 13th 2019 at 3:19:46 PM

[up][up][up][up]Real life kenjutsu fighters can (emphasis here) break steel katanas with wood ones, and the thing can easily break bones and ligaments.

That's why kenjutsu schools these days practice using shinais.

[up]Because there can be only one.

No really, the dragon can only fuel one Iron Fist at a time. More than one and the power is halved.

Edited by HailMuffins on Apr 13th 2019 at 7:23:32 AM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#100465: Apr 13th 2019 at 3:32:21 PM

So? An Iron Fist with half the power is still badass^^

And hey, I'd even take Danny without his powers. He's still a master fighter on par with Daredevil.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#100466: Apr 13th 2019 at 3:37:38 PM

Danny's got a lot of bad faith.

He spent Season 2 realizing he wasn't in any way worthy of the power, and then whole heartedly supported giving it to Colleen instead. While some thought that if the series had continued, he'd have regained it, I think they were building towards him gaining the power in his own way (becoming truly worthy) and him and Colleen both being iron fist.

That being said, even if he never gained back the power (which was admittedly unlikely) and Colleen stayed the fist (I think that's also likely), his massive (and well deserved) hatedom from the first season would have likely never been satisfied until he was flayed and beaten into mulch.

His comic book counterpart is likely gonna take a lot of flack on that front for years, because people will assume he's just like the TV version. Basically the same deal as Aquaman.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#100467: Apr 13th 2019 at 3:40:08 PM

I just wanna see Chi Katana Colleen and Chi Gunslinger Danny kicking bubblegum and chewing ass. Season 2 ended on way too much of a tease only to have its plug pulled.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#100468: Apr 13th 2019 at 4:43:13 PM

I didn't watch Iron Fist, but I did want to say that Colleen was an absolute treat in Defenders (and I'm crushing on her), and Danny wasn't actually so bad in that season, just not a believable martial artist.

Also, in case it wasn't pointed out, steel is made from iron and carbon.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#100469: Apr 13th 2019 at 5:05:12 PM

Yeah, but Iron Samurai still wouldn't quite work because (a) Samurais are Japanese, while Kun'Lun seem more inspired by Chinese culture, (b) Iron Fist is the official title, the chosen don't get to pick nicknames, and (c) a pure iron katana would break after a single slash, because iron is brittle, that's why they add carbon to it.

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#100470: Apr 13th 2019 at 5:49:16 PM

Steel Samurai sounds fine as a title. I think it sounds better than Iron Samurai because it has alliteration.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#100471: Apr 13th 2019 at 5:50:50 PM

Iron Man isn't literally made out of iron.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#100472: Apr 13th 2019 at 5:54:52 PM

Gold-Titanium alloy, I know.

Hey, I just remembered, the MCU can use the Silver Samurai now! He should be reworked as a Iron Fist villain, I always thought Wolverine's connections with Japan to be a unnecessary aspect of his character.

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#100473: Apr 13th 2019 at 5:54:56 PM

Yeah, his armor is that titanium-gold alloy that we discovered like 3 years ago. Difference is, Titanium-Gold Man doesn't have alliteration.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#100474: Apr 13th 2019 at 5:57:09 PM

[up][up]They built an entire movie around those connections. They won’t dump them.

IronScope STOP. RESETTING. MY. DISPLAY. OPTIONS. from Somewhere Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#100475: Apr 13th 2019 at 5:58:00 PM

[up][up][up] Plus, Iron Fist can finally get his revenge on Wolverine for stealing Sabretooth.

Also seconded on Weebverine's weeaboo shit being unnecessary

Edited by IronScope on Apr 13th 2019 at 10:58:16 PM

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