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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#100426: Apr 12th 2019 at 6:40:17 AM

I just hope the showrunners practice restraint during the move to animation. I've seen a lot of creators run wild with the revelation that they no longer need an effects budget for what they put onscreen.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#100427: Apr 12th 2019 at 7:17:40 AM

Wait, is this going to be a cartoon?

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#100428: Apr 12th 2019 at 7:24:24 AM

That's what I've been hearing in this thread. The What If series, at the very least, will be.

And I have concerns with that because I've seen the move away from live-action ruin a series before. A creator doesn't have to worry about the effects and stunts anymore and suddenly shit goes crazy. It can really take a person out of the action, that moment of recognition where you're like, "This would never - NEVER - exist in the source material."

Buffy the Vampire Slayer had this problem with its comic book continuation. Suddenly Dawn's a giant and Buffy's flying around like Superman punching mountains in half and Spike's captain of a spaceship crewed by bug aliens and shit.

I vividly remember a Jurassic Park comic with a martial artist who uses his katana to swordfight velociraptors.

Shit gets weird when live-action works no longer need to pay for CGI on the fantastic elements they want to put onscreen. I don't want the showrunners to wind up going, "Alright, since none of this has to happen on a live screen, they're fighting M.O.D.O.K. And he has a million dudes all shooting pew-pew lasers at them, but Falcon's just backflipping through it all and dodging a million shots at once. THEN HE DEPLOYS HIS VOLTRON ROBOT."

The MCU isn't the most grounded setting in the universe, but an MCU cartoon should still try to be more "MCU" than "cartoon". If that makes sense.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 12th 2019 at 8:26:57 AM

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#100429: Apr 12th 2019 at 7:27:49 AM

Actually, I find developments like that pretty fun for exactly that reason.

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#100430: Apr 12th 2019 at 7:28:39 AM

“I vividly remember a Jurassic Park comic with a martial artist who uses his katana to swordfight velociraptors.”

Frankly that sounds amazing

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#100431: Apr 12th 2019 at 7:34:32 AM

I'm not too worried, seeing as superhero tv very frequently falls to Coconut Superpowers so a bit of correction in the other direction wouldn't hurt.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100432: Apr 12th 2019 at 7:36:29 AM

I am not worried, since those are "What if" scenarios. Nothing what those shows do will impact the MCU as it is in any way.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#100433: Apr 12th 2019 at 7:37:15 AM

[up][up][up]Seconded. I would read that comic and cherish it in a heartbeat.

Edited by Nightwire on Apr 12th 2019 at 7:37:41 AM

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#100434: Apr 12th 2019 at 7:39:36 AM

It’s just equaling things out.

Unlike the books dinosaurs just up and tank all gunfire that isn’t an actual rocket launcher and can appear out of nowhere like a slasher villain

Some ludicrous feats on the other side just makes things fair so you don’t have to have dinosaurs suddenly fumbling against main characters when they’ve been slaughtering extras like popcorn

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#100435: Apr 12th 2019 at 8:00:57 AM

I vaguely remember the insanity of the Buffy comic, which led to a giant Dawn vs giant vampire robot fight.

That happened.

Something tells me only What If will be animated though.

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#100436: Apr 12th 2019 at 8:49:17 AM

In Japan. And Dracula was also involved.

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#100437: Apr 12th 2019 at 8:52:22 AM

We need Dracula in the MCU.

So that Cyclops can tell him to follow his heart.

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#100438: Apr 12th 2019 at 9:00:46 AM

[up][up]The writers really enjoyed not being bound by WB’s budget, huh?

Thinking of all the “What If” comics, I’m not sure they can do “The New Fantastic Four” given the characters.

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#100439: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:35:40 AM

Yes, they did. And it was to the detriment of the storytelling.

Which is what I'd like to avoid here. Just because Falcon can fight a dozen Mechagodzillas by flying around unloading nuclear-powered guns that shoot swords at them, that doesn't mean it would be good for either the story or the franchise to do that.

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#100440: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:40:47 AM

...... Why wouldn't it be?

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#100441: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:42:26 AM

A weird story isn't necessarily a good one. Yes, the Doom Patrol series is good, but it's good for reasons other than being weird. Such as being a compelling character drama.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#100442: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:46:27 AM

There's also Jojo which is just Bizarre.

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#100443: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:49:03 AM

[up]Boooo...

Edited by Beatman1 on Apr 12th 2019 at 1:49:15 PM

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#100444: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:49:53 AM

[up][up][up] Agreed. It might sound COOL on paper, but that novelty wears off when you're actually watching/reading it. To quote Pip from Hellsing Ultimate Abridged:

  • Pip: Damn it, that used to sound so cool! But then you say it so much and "Nazi Vampires" just sounds stupid!

Something being memetically awesome doesn't mean it'd actually be worth watching twenty episodes of.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 12th 2019 at 11:50:57 AM

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#100445: Apr 12th 2019 at 12:39:04 PM

It's all assumption until it airs though, so I'm not inclined to believe doomsaying.

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#100446: Apr 12th 2019 at 2:28:38 PM

You know who I want in the MCU? Sauron.

He was a kid who was bitten by pterodactyls from the Savage Land, and those pterodactyls gave him the ability to drain life energy from other beings. He then became a doctor and scientist, and when he drains someone's energy, he transforms into a horrible, evil, pterodactyl man who named himself Sauron after Sauron from Lord of the Rings.

He drains life energy, has fire breath, can hypnotize people, and is just the worst.

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#100448: Apr 12th 2019 at 6:07:37 PM

Re-watching some Guardians of the Galaxy, and it's interesting to see that both Xandar and the Kree have the same patriotic emblem of a shiny eight-pointed star.

Maybe that's what they fought their war over. [lol]

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#100449: Apr 12th 2019 at 6:11:06 PM

Zander probably broke away from the Kree hence the similar symbol

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#100450: Apr 12th 2019 at 6:11:07 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't want to share a symbol with the Kree.

They are like, the biggest assholes in space. Nothing would be worse than getting mistaken for them.

One Strip! One Strip!

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