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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100326: Apr 10th 2019 at 10:12:10 PM

[up] It's more than two. He turns up three times in the movie.

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#100327: Apr 10th 2019 at 10:15:26 PM

5-ish times to be really picky. But he has more than enough screentime to not be a cameo.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#100328: Apr 11th 2019 at 4:55:11 AM

yeah, about the Anti-SJW, I remember a video where the guy from Geeks and Gamers basically said people who went to see Captain Marvel weren't "true" fans, but SJW who just supported whatever fit their cause without caring about it. Which I find hilarious considering how that's exactly the Anti-SJW's modus operanti.

So yeah, I agree these guys don't deserve to be included in the fanbase.

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#100329: Apr 11th 2019 at 5:15:56 AM

I agree. Both about the anti-SJW crowd and about Coulson. F*ck those guys, and also I would say that Coulson qualifies as a minor character, not a cameo. He only shows up here and there rather than being one of the main cast, but he contributes something to the story every time he's onscreen.

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#100330: Apr 11th 2019 at 7:07:47 AM

Ronan the Accuser is closer to a cameo, as Coulson does fulfill a fairly important role in the story (namely letting Fury go).

Edited by Gaon on Apr 11th 2019 at 7:10:00 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100331: Apr 11th 2019 at 7:09:26 AM

[up] Spoilertags!!!!

Not that it was surprising that Coulson did that.

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#100332: Apr 11th 2019 at 7:10:26 AM

damn it Coulson your useless agent I hope you get demoted or something..

Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 11th 2019 at 2:10:40 PM

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#100333: Apr 11th 2019 at 7:54:09 AM

Something that bothers me a little, is that after becoming super-saiyan, the power of Carol is somewhat inconsistent.

At one point she has problems to beat the Kree soldiers and the next is able to destroy entire ships with great ease.

Although taking into account, that the Captain America (A guy that at most is at the level of Spiderman) was able to give Thanos fight, this example is not so notorious.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Apr 11th 2019 at 7:57:29 AM

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#100334: Apr 11th 2019 at 7:57:03 AM

Ramping up.

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#100335: Apr 11th 2019 at 8:04:34 AM

Yeah, Carol powers up twice in the climax. Once when she breaks the restraining chip and fights the Kree team, and again when she goes Binary to fly and fights the fleet.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 11th 2019 at 8:05:11 AM

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#100337: Apr 11th 2019 at 8:20:47 AM

Those suits look real dumb.

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#100338: Apr 11th 2019 at 8:25:17 AM

It is still surreal to see Nebula be treated on the same level as the core Avengers.

Not that I'm complaining, of course.

Edited by LordVatek on Apr 11th 2019 at 11:25:37 AM

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#100339: Apr 11th 2019 at 9:00:29 AM

What level do you speak of?

If is power, she is easily superior to the normal ones.

In other words, Nebula survived a missile launcher, something that would have killed many members.

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#100340: Apr 11th 2019 at 9:02:10 AM

I think it's more that she never officially turned good.

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#100341: Apr 11th 2019 at 9:04:18 AM

The only one who can unvouch for her character is Rocket though.

Tony only knows that she helped fight Thanos.

None of the Earth people know that she's a wanted criminal or that she was helping Ronan do his Ronan-y stuff.

I mean, Carol might.

But as far as everyone else is concerned she's just that abrasive weirdo that Tony brought back from space that Rocket knows.

And Rocket is abrasive too so probably just all space people are like that.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#100342: Apr 11th 2019 at 9:07:26 AM

[up]If Loki had joined the avengers, the relationship would probably be much more tense. Being that most remember him as a villain.

The only ones who would give the same would be Rocket, Nebula and Carol.

If Bucky were in the group, the situation would be tense with Tony and Natasha, but the others would probably don't care.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Apr 11th 2019 at 9:11:47 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100343: Apr 11th 2019 at 9:11:27 AM

If Loki joined the Avenger he himself might have a tense relationship with Nebula. I mean, it is pretty likely that they encountered each other while he was with Thanos, right?

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#100344: Apr 11th 2019 at 9:19:56 AM

It is difficult to determine how Nebula's relationship with an ex-ally of his father would be.

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#100345: Apr 11th 2019 at 9:53:41 AM

I agree that I don't really like the suits but it's still so cool to see Rocket and Nebula officially among the Avengers.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#100346: Apr 11th 2019 at 10:29:08 AM

Chalk it up to "Ummm, we're trying to save the universe here and made functional suits but didn't have time to add coolness to them".

Editing to add that I have no opinion of the suits either way.

Edited by Tabs on Apr 11th 2019 at 11:06:41 AM

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#100347: Apr 11th 2019 at 11:02:33 AM

They look fine to me

They’re not as cool as the spacesuits in Avengers EMH but few things are

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#100349: Apr 11th 2019 at 11:11:38 AM

They're a bit cheesy-looking but I like seeing them all in a uniform uniform.

Shit, that's why they're called uniforms! tongue

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#100350: Apr 11th 2019 at 11:24:59 AM

I'm fine with the white suits, since they're for a specific mission and they're not replacing the normal suits.


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