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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#100301: Apr 10th 2019 at 12:47:26 PM

Judging by what you say of the effects of the spider bite, Peter Parker is in fact the least special type.


Speaking of Kid Loki.

He can be introduced as a Loki project.(For example as a cloned body)

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Apr 10th 2019 at 12:59:02 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#100302: Apr 10th 2019 at 2:36:36 PM

O-T Fagbenle has been cast in a "lead role" in the Black Widow spin-off.

Doesn't specify who he's playing, but I recall buzz that Marvel was reportedly looking at black British actors to play Taskmaster. So make of that what you will.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#100303: Apr 10th 2019 at 3:14:49 PM

Black + British = Blade.

...okay, it's a stretch, but c'mon.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#100304: Apr 10th 2019 at 3:32:01 PM

Oh, I would love for Black Widow's movie to be a vampire movie. Or anything else randomly supernatural.

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#100305: Apr 10th 2019 at 3:35:49 PM

I'd like vampires to be added to the MCU personally, but I am not sure Black Widow is the right movie for it.

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#100306: Apr 10th 2019 at 3:38:06 PM

we need werewolves,I recommend captain America werewolf movie set after infinity war where cap dies and lives a new life in his werewolf form

believe me I didn't know I wanted werewolf captain america until recently,but now I do

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#100307: Apr 10th 2019 at 3:40:42 PM

[up]Assuming you aren't joking, why exactly do you want this? I'm genuinely curious^^

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#100308: Apr 10th 2019 at 3:46:21 PM

Why?

I just do I guess

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#100309: Apr 10th 2019 at 4:45:17 PM

So, can MCU Carol be considered a Base-Breaking Character?

There is definitely a divisive nature for both her character and her movie. Even if most of the controversy of the movie is pretty dumb, you could say that maybe Carol is not a character many can get behind.

I know her Comic book counterpart is definitely a base breaker.

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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#100310: Apr 10th 2019 at 4:52:49 PM

Lol no.

Alt-right asshats being their toxic selves isn't "base breaking" or divisive, its just a bunch of pathetic manchildren who never cared in the first place trying to ruin something other people enjoy because Brie Larson happens to be an outspoken feminist. The over 1 billion dollars Captain Marvel has made is ample proof that the fanbase is more than happy with her.

Edited by TheAirman on Apr 10th 2019 at 6:56:50 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#100311: Apr 10th 2019 at 4:54:51 PM

She's not my favorite character but I have no real problems with her.

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doomrider7 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#100312: Apr 10th 2019 at 5:32:35 PM

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Using money isn't necessarily the best metric since even at worse these movies ALWAYS make pretty good bank. Not to mention this movie was seen by some as a prequel to the biggest cinematic even in movie history. Maybe not necessarily a billion, but the movie was generally always expected by logical people to make lots and lots of money. It heavily tilts to well liked, but I can get some of the issues that might be considered divisive, for not sexist asshole reasons.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#100313: Apr 10th 2019 at 5:52:01 PM

People often say the Marvel brand sells the films, and it does, but there are obvious layers to that. IE Doctor Strange was a hit, but then you have Black Panther, which made almost twice what that did. Or Ant-Man grossing half what Captain Marvel did.

I definitely think the Endgame connection and the overall strength of the Marvel brand helped, but movies generally don't get to a billion dollars without people genuinely liking them enough to encourage repeat viewing. And, along those lines, Captain Marvel's repeating numbers were pretty strong.

By contrast, you had Batman v. Superman, which opened to a truly astonishing record weekend, but then sank in its second weekend (and ultimately failed to hit the billion everyone thought was gonna be its floor) because it had terrible buzz and word of mouth. So while money doesn't indicate the quality of a movie, there are readings of a film's box office that can definitely be used to argue people generally liked it.

Edited by comicwriter on Apr 10th 2019 at 5:53:05 AM

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#100314: Apr 10th 2019 at 6:30:34 PM

I wonder when they had the idea to make Thanos the Big Bad of the MCU.

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#100315: Apr 10th 2019 at 6:33:15 PM

I recall it was during the making of The Avengers, but at the time it was just a Stinger idea and Whedon had no concrete plans for what the confrontation with Thanos would look like.

doomrider7 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#100316: Apr 10th 2019 at 6:46:14 PM

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OH for sure. Granted there are ranges in terms of scope and meaning to those movies such as BP having arguably bigger implications to the MCU on top of having the first black lead in a predominantly black cast vs Ant-Man and the Wasp or Captain Marvel being the first female protagonist and a cosmic level entity on top of being the lead-in to the biggest cinematic blockbuster of all time. I'm not saying it wouldn't have done well, after seeing it twice I can safely say it would've EASILY done $850 million no matter what(it really was damned good), but the lead-in to Endgame and how she factors into it all definetly pushed it for that bit into Dr. Evil money of $1 billion.

Edit: Forgot to mention that BP released on February(January 29 for some Dolby stuff) which is Black History month which definetly had to factor into it cracking the billion mark.

Edited by doomrider7 on Apr 10th 2019 at 9:50:53 AM

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#100317: Apr 10th 2019 at 6:50:35 PM

I'd like vampires to be added to the MCU personally, but I am not sure Black Widow is the right movie for it.

I would like vampires as well, but I've never been interested in the Morbius character, and Wesley Snipes isn't coming back for Blade anytime soon. Apart from those two I don't know where or how you could introduce vampires.

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#100318: Apr 10th 2019 at 7:06:52 PM

How does Elsa Bloodstone, monster hunter strike you?

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Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#100319: Apr 10th 2019 at 7:08:21 PM

[up] Obligatory "Nextwave movie when?" comment

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Apr 10th 2019 at 7:08:49 AM

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#100320: Apr 10th 2019 at 7:33:34 PM

Obligatory "we know Monica Rambeau likes wearing oversized brown jackets in the MCU" comment.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#100321: Apr 10th 2019 at 7:42:05 PM

One of the reasons I want Monica is that I love the way her costume is a very stark contrast from Carol's.

It says a lot about their differing personalities, just from looking at them. Carol's costume is loud and colorful, but also has the reminiscent (to an American audience) colors of authority. Whereas Monica / Spectrum is minimalist and straightforward, but bright.

Also, when's the last time we've gotten a real classic Civvie Spandex in films? It's been ages.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 10th 2019 at 7:43:01 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#100322: Apr 10th 2019 at 8:39:56 PM

I finally got around to seeing Captain Marvel.

It was pretty good. I really liked Carol as a character and I'm looking forward to her in Endgame.

Main villain felt a little weak (figuratively and literally), but I laughed when Carol just blew him away rather than agree to his no-powers-allowed duel. Totally expected it, but laughed nonetheless.

I also expected Goose was somehow gonna be responsible for Fury's lost eye, but I was expecting a more dramatic moment than Goose just casually swiping at it on the way out of the space station. Fury lying and saying it was shot out by a Kree in combat, rather than admit he was stupidly playing with a dangerous alien, also made me laugh.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100323: Apr 10th 2019 at 9:18:30 PM

Base-breaking? Lol, no. The "base" is referring to the fanbase, and the MCU fanbase is overall really happy with Captain Marvel or indifferent. The Anti-SJ Ws aren't seen as part of the fanbase. They are seen as outsiders who try to stir up trouble.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#100324: Apr 10th 2019 at 9:35:28 PM

So, was Coulson just a cameo or...

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#100325: Apr 10th 2019 at 9:36:43 PM

He only really has two short scenes, but both have a large effect on the plot, so I don't think that qualifies as "cameo".


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