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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
If you adjust for inflation, the only X-Men movies that have made as much money as X2 and The Last Stand are the Deadpool films, which are abnormally popular for their brand. At least, domestically. Box Office Mojo doesn't offer inflation-adjustment for Worldwide sales.
Last Stand sold 35.8 million tickets domestically. In comparison to the MCU, this puts its sales figures on part with Thor: Ragnarok and Spider-Man: Homecoming.
EDIT: As a FUN FACT sidenote, did you know that the only MCU films to put more asses in seats than Spider-Man 1 and 2 were Avengers 1, Infinity War, and Black Panther? True story! Maguire's Peter Parker has not aged well, but his movies were a cultural phenomenon in their day, the likes of which have been very difficult to replicate.
The Spider-Man movies are basically the Star Wars Original Trilogy of the superhero genre. They were like nothing anyone had ever seen before and they secured an inviolable place in history and in the hearts of people who remember seeing them as children. Also, everyone agrees that the second one was the best and the third one kinda sucks.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 9th 2019 at 3:35:34 AM
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Did you also know that Spider-Man wans on a downward trend domestically from day on and the only reason Spider-Man 3 grossed the most was the worldwide box office?
Also, I am not claiming that the X-men did badly, but I think they could have done Avengers numbers if they hadn't been so aggressively mediocre. The reason why Deadpool and Logan have made more than most X-men movies, despite having been r-rated (what really limits the audience) is because they weren't.
I think the original Xmen and Spiderman movies worked at that time.
They've moved away from mocking hero tropes (what do you expect? Yellow Spandex) and wholeheartedly embraced that world that heroes lived in.
...they also gave Peter proper webbing. None of that organic shit.
One Strip! One Strip!Spider-Man 2 is still one of the best superhero movies of all time. X-Men 2 is great, but the ending doesn't quite hold up to today's standards (oh is Magneto betraying them again? of course he's the bad guy again).
Of course, both were followed up by the worst examples of superhero movies (at the time). I remember watching X-Men: The Last Stand in theaters and just cringing when the Juggernaut appeared and said, "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch."
It's a reference to this.
This is a reupload, but to give an idea how old the original was, there's a Jackie Chan Adventures reference of all things in it. It was especially making the viral rounds around the time the movie was coming out.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 9th 2019 at 4:24:01 AM
they also gave Peter proper webbing. None of that organic shit.
Yeaaaaah, I personally prefer when the web is organic, or at least when it became organic later on (I'm still mad they had him return to mechanic web-shooters in One More Day. I hate regression). Honestly him having organic or mechanic web-shooter doesn't have that much impact overall, aside from providing a convenient way to incapacitate him every now and then by having him run out of fluid. And yes, it shows his smart side, but there are other ways to show this.
I'd be fine with combining the two. He produces webbing, but he's not able to shoot it out, just create a strand and lead it along. He builds the web-shooters as a way to turn his new natural spider silk into a useful projectile.
This neatly side-steps the issue of Peter somehow having an unlimited supply of what would be a gigantic breakthrough in chemical engineering, while still making the mechanical creation of the web-shooters and web-shooter capsules impressive in its own right.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 9th 2019 at 5:28:29 AM
Personally I prefer the idea that Peter's spider-ri-ness is just getting stronger as he gets older. He starts off using web shooters then at the point in the story when his mutation starts getting out of control he can shoot webbing organically.
At least I'd like to think that DNA is nature's IKEA and you can't just slide all of the convenient abilities of a spider into a human package being without some adjustment.
Also, a pox upon those who think Spider Men 1 and 2 were mediocre. I don't harbor any strong hatred for the Fox X-Men films either. Days of Future Past and Apocalypse weren't bad and First Class is honestly my least favorite of them al-
Ah crap. We're probably not going to see any continuation of the Logan timeline with an X-23 film now, are we.
Edited by Soble on Apr 9th 2019 at 6:19:59 AM
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!Eh. I still prefer the web shooters.
Organic webbing can be a thing for other spider people.
One Strip! One Strip!I mean.
Silk and Peter were bit by the same spider. Most of the others seem to be a clone of Peter in some fashion. Even an alien symbiote decided to pattern its biology after him despite having several future hosts.
Whatever Peter has is what the others should have in theory. Miles and Jessica excluded.
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So yeah, writing had something to do with it, just not the writing of THIS movie. Kind of like nobody (but me, apparently) watched Shawshanks redemption in theatres but then everyone went to see The Green Mile. X-men had so many movies to built of its reputation.
Edited by Swanpride on Apr 9th 2019 at 1:53:11 AM