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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Hmmm...i'm getting Pride Before a Fall feelings from this clip. Like, Star-Lord levels of arrogance.
Imagine if Carol is taken out first by Thanos by turning her into bubbles. Wouldn't that be funnily anti-climatic?
Uni catWell, clearly the Avengers don't flit over to Thanos' digs, take him out, recover the Stones, and fix the universe all in Act 1. Draw your own conclusions from there...
Although I still maintain that it would be awesome if Thanos simply surrendered, having had a change of heart (or at least saying, "Fine, you try to do it better."), and then the heroes fall apart fighting over how they'll use the stones and, more importantly, who will use the stones.
I just had an amazing thought, which I'll spoiler tag just in case: What if that actually happens, but it's all an illusion of the Reality Stone designed to make the Avengers doubt themselves, or even destroy themselves, and Thanos is using it to prove his point?
Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 11:49:05 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Imagine if Carol is taken out first by Thanos by turning her into bubbles. Wouldn't that be funnily anti-climatic?
Yeah-no. Aside from the fact it'd give the Anti-SJW exactly what they hope for, I wanna see her fight as a team with the rest, damn it! Plus The Worf Effect would be pointless here. We already know Thanos is tough, no need to establish this anymore. I mean, he beat down the Hulk, that should be convincing enough.
Although I still maintain that it would be awesome if Thanos simply surrendered, having had a change of heart (or at least saying, "Fine, you try to do it better."), and then the heroes fall apart fighting over how they'll use the stones and, more importantly, who will use the stones.
I certainly hope the fight over the Stones part won't happen because we had enough of them fighting before. But my bet is on Thanos being talked into giving up the Stones personally.
I believe that brute force is simply not going to work against Thanos, no matter how much is brought to bear. First, it would be too simple a solution for a three hour film that serves as the climax of 21 other films; and second, he has the goddamn Infinity Stones. Even with the gauntlet de-powered, he can still alter reality, space, time, etc. to his whim. Nothing should be able to overcome that directly.
Another hypothesis I have for the resolution is that the Avengers will use use time manipulation to go back and alter the choices they made in Infinity War that led to the bad outcomes.
Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 12:31:23 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"@fasoman1996: That would be really dumb (and not in a comedic way), and that's coming from someone who thinks worfing Carol would be a good idea (just to make it clear that, despite being the strongest Avenger, she can't take on Thanos alone).
Leviticus 19:34Yeah. I'm a little torn on this.
Carol does have a bit of a history of being somewhat reckless in the comics, but with the current climate right now, I feel like anything that makes her look bad would be wielded as a weapon by those ASJW idiots and I don't want that.
On the other hand, if it's done in a way that fits the character and the story, then I'd be ok with it, and I also admit that making sure those guys are wrong isn't a good enough reason. Plus, pretty much anything will be used by them to promote their agenda, so there's no point in worrying about it, or at least not in letting it dictate your actions.
One Strip! One Strip!Personally, I'd go with Carol attempting a Shut Up, Hannibal! while Thanos is giving some speech by blasting him, only for Thanos to actually survive relatively unharmed and compliment her on the "nice shot". Or if you wanna go for real comedy, have it be an Overly Long Gag where she keeps trying to blast Thanos every time he keeps trying to finish his speech until he eventually gives up in annoyance and decides to fight.
Edited by Protagonist506 on Apr 8th 2019 at 9:40:36 AM
Leviticus 19:34Honestly I don't see the point of her being Worfed, because we don't need to establish she cannot take on Thanos alone. That's fucking obvious; as strong as you are, you cannot defeat a guy who alter reality unless you hit fast (which Thor already did). They can have her just fight along with the rest and struggle the same they do.
Depending on how much power the Gauntlet has left I could certainly see either: 1. Carol can easily beat him and maybe could alone, but that does nothing towards bringing the snapped people back or 2. it's kind of a curb-stop switch, with Carol getting some very good hits in but Thanos immediately taking it back once he starts attacking with the gauntlet.
I'm guessing everyone beats Thanos but he destroys the stones to prevent them from getting them.
Cue the quantum realm.
Edited by LordVatek on Apr 8th 2019 at 12:50:11 PM
This song needs more love.Honestly, the last thing I want is for Endgame to pull a Justice League and have Carol end up steamrolling Thanos and also get to be the one who defeats him. This is the finale for several beloved characters, so it would only be fitting that they get to be the ones who deal the final blow, not someone who was just recently introduced.
For one, we have already established that Thanos is superpowerful, so they can use every bit of help they can get. So Carol is better to her full capacity, or it wouldn't be believable at all that they are able to do what they couldn't do together. I am sure that there will be (as usual) a role for everyone in the fight, but they will need their combined abilities to their fullest.
Two, I somehow doubt that this will be the solution anyway. I suspect that when they defeat Thanos it turns out that nope, they can't undo what he did, maybe because the stones are too damaged. Because only the Russos would be cruel enough to put victory in reach (again) just for it being snatched away from them AGAIN.

Amusingly, Fox technically beat Marvel to the punch with Deadpool 2, showing a consenting (and adorable) lesbian relationship between X-Men Negasonic and Yuki.
Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 10:59:35 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"