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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100076: Apr 8th 2019 at 4:18:06 AM

Nah, there are apparently multiple of those openings. Loki most likely used one closer to the treasure room.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#100077: Apr 8th 2019 at 4:30:08 AM

Its Antman,who cares? (I sort of care anyhow)

So do I. Antman actually is among my favourites in the bunch.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100078: Apr 8th 2019 at 4:41:44 AM

Every MCU franchise is made for a specific demographic. Ant-Man is the family friendly franchise, hence it is less "edgy" than the other franchises. It is something save where parents can get their children hooked on the MCU without having to worry about anything overly traumatic happening. And I have a soft spot for it. It is like watching a Disney Picture movie from the 1960 or 1970s, but one of the good ones.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#100079: Apr 8th 2019 at 4:50:15 AM

In a franchise with no shortage of [[Film/Thor questionable]]actions from fathers or father figures, it's refreshing to see Scott be a genuinely nice and loving dad to Cassie, not to mention Maggie and Paxton being supportive of them while they're dealing with the fallout from the Sokovia Accords.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Apr 8th 2019 at 4:55:00 AM

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100080: Apr 8th 2019 at 5:10:08 AM

It was also nice to finally get a mother/daughter relationship (maybe even two of them) in Captain Marvel.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#100081: Apr 8th 2019 at 5:57:11 AM

I forgot one parental relationship in my summary earlier.

  • Gamora and Nebula are Thanos' "adopted" daughters, whom he tests to destruction against each other. They both hate him.

Also, Quill has a "two daddies" thing going on with Ego and Yondu. One father abandoned him, murdered his mother, and when they finally meet, tries to use him to take over the universe. The other father abducted him from Earth and raised him as a criminal, but turns out to have actually cared a great deal about him. So... yeah.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#100082: Apr 8th 2019 at 6:03:25 AM

Wow, good living parents are pretty rare among MCU superheroes when you put it like that.

On a note, I hope for Banner his father isn't as horrible in the MCU as he is in the comic.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100083: Apr 8th 2019 at 6:26:28 AM

[up] There is also Fitz's father…and Ward's parents...There are a lot of Daddy issues in the MCU.

Though I guess you could count Skye's as one of the good ones. Kind of.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#100084: Apr 8th 2019 at 6:30:46 AM

I thought of another: T'Challa. His dad seems to have been decent, although we don't know much about their relationship. Of course, his father is also dead, so... At least he has a solid bond with his sister and mother.

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 9:32:35 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#100085: Apr 8th 2019 at 6:33:22 AM

And Killmonger's dad, for whatever else can be said about him, truly seemed to love his son.

And don't forget Aunt May.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#100086: Apr 8th 2019 at 6:35:29 AM

New Endgame video clip on Good Morning America.

Carol meets Avengers.

Edited by wisewillow on Apr 8th 2019 at 9:36:48 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#100087: Apr 8th 2019 at 6:37:18 AM

[up][up] I mentioned Aunt May in my earlier post. Killmonger's relationship with his father is barely portrayed, other than the "dead parent as motivation" aspect, so I didn't really consider it, but I suppose it could count.

[up] That clip, though. It's so much better to have the additional context.

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 9:46:53 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100088: Apr 8th 2019 at 6:48:36 AM

Dammit...I didn't want to watch anymore from this movie but I just couldn't resist Carol....

Oh boy…

I think the Anti-SJW will milk this one for at least 30 vids about how Captain Marvel is ruining Endgame.

But I love it!!!!

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#100089: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:06:42 AM

I really like the line: "There are a lot of other planets in the universe." It reminds us that the stakes of the Decimation aren't just limited to this one little world.

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 10:07:47 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100090: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:13:00 AM

I like the line directly after, too.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#100091: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:13:48 AM

Yeah, and the fact that it triggers Thor, who is one of the people charged with defending that larger universe, is quite interesting. I don't know that I necessarily ship Carol x Thor, but they would make an amazing duo.

Rhodes really speaks for the audience with his previous line, too. I like how they don't just ignore the question, "and where were you during all of this?"

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 10:15:07 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#100092: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:18:42 AM

I vastly prefer Thor trying to set Carol up with Valkyrie and/or supporting Carol/Maria [lol]

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#100093: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:19:45 AM

Funnily enough she does have a point in that her mere existence is a game changer but not for reasons she maybe knows (she seems to be going by “I’m strong as all Hell”)

Her true value is the fact her powers outright came from a Stone.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 8th 2019 at 9:08:58 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100094: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:31:16 AM

[up] Careful, Spoiler tags!!! I think there are still people who haven't seen Captain Marvel.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#100095: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:40:23 AM

[up][up][up] Why not all of the above? But seriously, while I can see Carol x Valkyrie, they have not even met, so it's way too early to judge their chemistry. As for Carol x Maria, the problem there is vastly disparate power levels, never mind the fact that Maria ages while Carol doesn't. They are much more like Heterosexual Life-Partners, at least in principle.

I realize that the Mayfly–December Romance issue didn't stop Thor from making out with Jane Foster, but it at least fits with his personality (well, before having his planet blown up and watching half of the people he swore to protect die, anyway).

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 10:42:21 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#100096: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:45:35 AM

Weird how disparate power levels are never a problem when a superhero is dating a non-super woman but people seldom like to see a superheroine dating a non-super guy

Nobody except the comics themselves repeatedly in the silver age ever go “well Lois lane is alright but it’d be even better if she had superpowers”

Edited by Bocaj on Apr 8th 2019 at 10:46:31 AM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#100097: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:48:40 AM

Why do we have to ship carol with anyone?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#100098: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:49:52 AM

[up][up]To be fair, by the time I was old enough to appreciate the problem, I don't think I'd seen one single instance of a powerful, immortal female character dating a mortal man (never mind a woman). Even now I can only think of one in recent memory: Diana with Steve Trevor. (Caveat: I haven't watched the latest season of Doctor Who.)

It seems that media is simply determined to ignore (or sugarcoat) the unfortunate implications of that scenario. So you know what, fine. If it's mutually consenting, more power to them.

[up] There is absolutely no need for Carol to have a love interest. It's just fun to speculate about.

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 8th 2019 at 10:52:01 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#100099: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:50:24 AM

We don’t have to. And we don’t have to not to.

But people love to do it

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#100100: Apr 8th 2019 at 7:57:17 AM

As a bi woman, if I want a wlw MCU relationship shipping isn’t optional. There’s no canon ones (though I’d argue Maria/Carol is arguably hinted at).


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