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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#99876: Apr 3rd 2019 at 4:04:49 PM

The UDON costume is the most iconic costume for Taskmaster to me, to the point I didn't realize it wasn't his original for a long time. I'd say it's a better fit for the movies than his traditional one.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#99877: Apr 3rd 2019 at 5:15:08 PM

I agree entirely. I also preferred the UDON take on Taskmaster's memorizing skills than the other one. By which I mean there are two takes on Taskmaster's memory: 1 - he memorizes combat related memories perfectly and gradually forgets everything else (which is absolutely nonsensical) 2 - the UDON (among others) take that the drawback of his memorizing skills is that he simply cannot forget anything, so his memories torture him.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99878: Apr 3rd 2019 at 5:17:56 PM

What is UDON?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#99879: Apr 3rd 2019 at 5:19:18 PM

I assume it means Ultimate edition

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#99880: Apr 3rd 2019 at 5:26:12 PM

I did like Taskmaster in Spiderman Ps 4, even if he was just like Deathstroke in the Arkham games.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#99881: Apr 3rd 2019 at 5:41:02 PM

I thought UDON is a type of noodle.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99883: Apr 3rd 2019 at 8:55:02 PM

Scene description from Endgame that was shown at Cinemacon today. Spoilers obvs.

Edited by comicwriter on Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:19:21 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#99884: Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:21:38 PM

I prefer the skull mask

Taskmaster has a relatively laid back more common less grand eloquent manner of speaking than your Dooms and such and having casual slang come out of a skull mask is fun

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99885: Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:41:44 PM

If they can pull off the skull mask I'd be for it, but I see them leaning more towards the Udon look since the MCU likes the whole tactical thing with the street powered characters.

His design in the recent Spider-Man PS4 game is not far off from how I'd picture him looking in the MCU.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#99886: Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:03:27 PM

In hindsight, the PS 4 design seems to take elements from both the classic look and the Udon look.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#99887: Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:05:06 PM

Wow he looks super like Deathstroke there.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#99888: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:11:54 PM

Imo, the essential thing about Taskmaster is that he shouldn't be completely evil.

He's maybe Marvel's best example of a Punch-Clock Villain. Trainer of villains, and sometimes heroes. Doer of villainous, and sometimes heroic, deeds for money. Pretty amiable if the situation allows for it, too. That's what makes him different than most other characters of his type, and he rocks it well.

He should totally be Affably Evil, an Enigmatic Minion, and possibly even end up doing some good at some point. Not the Big Bad.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:12:25 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99889: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:33:07 PM

[up][up]Which is ironic since the same artist (George Perez) basically created Deathstroke's costume as an Expy of the one he'd already done up for Taskmaster.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#99890: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:37:10 PM

So Deadpool is a rip-off of Deathstroke is a rip-off of Taskmaster.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99891: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:39:04 PM

Amazingly they’ve all become distinct characters despite their origins.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#99892: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:44:10 PM

And Red Tool is a rip off of Deadpool who is a rip off of Deathstroke who is a rip off of Taskmaster.

Funnily enough, Taskmaster and Deadpool actually worked together during Gail Simone's run, which was hilarious.

Edited by alliterator on Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:45:02 AM

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#99893: Apr 4th 2019 at 2:25:29 AM

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J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#99894: Apr 4th 2019 at 5:45:11 AM

Maybe they could compromise, use the "classic" outfit for behind the scenes stuff and plotting with villains, and use the new one for the actual combat.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#99895: Apr 4th 2019 at 7:04:22 AM

My first exposition to Taskmaster was in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and he seemed very silly.

What's is more common for him? To be a serious character or a silly character?

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#99896: Apr 4th 2019 at 7:27:11 AM

[up]

My first exposition to Taskmaster was in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and he seemed very silly.

Same. Mostly, I had to read up on Marvel's characters because of their crossovers with Capcom. I didn't know about Captain Marvel until Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite.

When I saw Infinity War, it dawned on me that Spider-Man using Strange's portals to hit Thanos at multiple directions is basically his Maximum Spider from the crossovers with Capcom.

Back on topic, read about Angela, would the legal rights that surrounded the character before she was finally bought from Neil Gaiman by Marvel deny a future appearance into the MCU?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#99897: Apr 4th 2019 at 7:47:45 AM

[up] Eh, I'm not sure.

I do recall reading that Hela basically took Angela's place as Thor's older half-sister in the MCU, so...

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#99898: Apr 4th 2019 at 8:14:35 AM

Taskmaster is a ridiculous, self-aware, dangerous super-badass. He's the kind of goofball who would be like, "Hey, you know what's better than doing crime and getting beat up by superheroes? Getting paid to teach supervillains how to do crime and letting them get beat up by superheroes while I swim around in my legitimately-earned Scrooge McDuck money pit. SCORE."

He's pretty savvy, he knows all the dudes on both the Good Guy and Bad Guy sides of the fence, and he knows his own limits. He tries not to bite off more than he can chew, and is really just looking for a Cut Lex Luthor a Check arrangement. No agendas. No master plans. At the end of the day, Taskmaster just wants to get paid.

None of that detracts from the fact that he will f*ck your shit up with his photographic reflexes if you cross him. Or if that's just the job.

He's one of Marvel's "universal" characters, in the sense that he doesn't really have an Assigned Superhero whose rogues gallery he's a member of. He just drifts around the Marvel Universe, popping up whenever a writer has a use for him. The closest to a serious recurring role would probably be in Deadpool comics, since he and Wade are notorious frenemies.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 4th 2019 at 9:18:22 AM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#99899: Apr 4th 2019 at 9:11:30 AM

This is so sad guys.

You know what's funny? I found Captain Marvel overall to be an average to good film and trolls take issue with it being a success. But Aquaman is a fairly meh film, makes a billion and everybody is fine with it?

Fucking DC Shills man

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#99900: Apr 4th 2019 at 9:21:23 AM

Why... toes??

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