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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99852: Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:49:19 AM

Literally who?

-does a wiki search-

Oh

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99855: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:07:19 AM

Rachel Weisz? I love her!

Which reminds me that I really have to Honor Evie down the line…

Oh, the Anti-SJW are currently busy pointing out that wonder woman still made more domestically (who the heck cares?), claiming that this is just because of Endgame and some even had the epiphany that they themselves advertised for the movie, basically saying that this is just because SJW decided to support the movie to make a point.

They also have this conspiracy theory that the smirk of Captain Marvel in the Endgame trailer was CGI'ed in. Because THAT makes so much sense.

Edited by Swanpride on Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:10:35 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#99856: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:13:06 AM

They also have this conspiracy theory that the smirk of Captain Marvel in the Endgame trailer was CGI'ed in.
"She smiled! They must have CGI'd that in because of our complaints about her not smiling! WE WIN!"

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99857: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:16:28 AM

I think people are now inventing silly lengths people will go to hate a film

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#99858: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:39:41 AM

Did they miss how Carol has a smirk on her face for at least half the movie?

shackwave Ultraman Omega from Nebula M78 Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Ultraman Omega
#99859: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:44:15 AM

Let's be honest here that most of the people complaining about it probably haven't watched the movie.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#99860: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:55:32 AM

Last time someone CGed in smiles on a superhero’s face, it went... poorly.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:55:49 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99861: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:57:37 AM

[up][up] Oh, that's the hilarious part, a lot of them obviously DID watch the movie.

And I bet, a lot of them will watch The Unicorn Store, too, just to complain how horrible it is. For context, The Unicorn Store is a movie Brie Larson directed in 2017. Netflix bought the rights to it and apparently also want to give her another directing project. Which lead to the following comment on their Twitter account:

"Lol this looks like bleh. Take notes from Jonah Hill, who was mentored by Martin Scorsese, and took years before he made his directorial debut out of respect for the artistry of film and the position of director. This seems like she’s just riding Captain Marvel’s wave."

Netflix's answer:

"Brie Larson has:

58 acting credits

53 award noms

2 writing credits

2 short film directing credits

1 composing credit

1 producing credit

1 Oscar

1 feature directing credit

Been working since 1998

Worked with Apatow, Baumbach, Wright, Boden, Fleck, Abrahamson, and more"

The hilarious part is that I didn't even knew that Netflix had bought the movie, but because of the whole discussion I have now marked it to watch it when it gets released this week. Not because of the controversy, but because I am curious about her directing abilities, plus, the story does look kind of interesting. It is also so rare to see such high calibre actors in an indie (Samuel L Jackson also has a role in it).

Edited by Swanpride on Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:58:29 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#99862: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:00:40 PM

Third time she’s worked with Jackson now.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99863: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:02:11 PM

[up] Not that she had that many scenes with him in King Kong. But I guess they like working together.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#99864: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:07:59 PM

Reminds me of that times in the Call of Dustin video where the guy from Geeks and Gamers tells Brie Larson she "has done nothing". Cue a clip of her receiving her Oscar.

Also, I'd be curious to see what they have accomplished themselves to make such a statement.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#99865: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:15:41 PM

I'm really wanting to know who the main villain of the Black Widow movie is. Mostly because I don't want her to be another one who just fights her exact duplicate in villain form as the climax.

I mean, I do want to see that but not as the crux of the movie. There's evil Black Widows and I want to see them. But because she does have pre-built evil knockoffs, I don't want to see the writers getting complacent about it. I'd love it if the ultimate threat is, like, a Bond-style superweapon (of which Marvel's espionage characters have many) or supersoldier or something and the inevitable evil Widow is The Heavy.

Like, can you imagine if the Big Bad is Lucia von Bardas, and the climax involves Widow dismantling our first exposure to Latverian supertech while playing cat and mouse with a supersuited Bardas or something?

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:22:54 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99866: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:22:56 PM

[up] There is a rumor that it will be the taskmaster Which makes sense, but since the source is "We got this covered", I wouldn't bet on it.

Have you ever seen Agents carter? Because if you haven't, that might help you out a little bit with your Evil Black Widows desires.

Edited by Swanpride on Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:23:57 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#99867: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:24:19 PM

I'd be down if that's true, especially if Taskmaster doesn't die in the end. Though I think I'd still prefer him as The Heavy than the Big Bad.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99868: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:26:03 PM

Or he seems to be the Big bad and in the end it turns out that he is actually just the heavy.

Or wild mass guess Black Widow kills him towards the end of the movie and he turns into a Skrull.

Edited by Swanpride on Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:26:58 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#99870: Apr 3rd 2019 at 1:32:52 PM

RE: David Harbour being in Black Widow: Aw nuts. After seeing a fan-casting on Twitter, I thought he'd have been great as The Thing. But whatever. tongue

And yes yes yes YES to Taskmaster if he's one of the bad guys. It probably won't happen, but I'd be psyched if he had his classic costume. (Don't click link in the name of spoilers.)

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#99871: Apr 3rd 2019 at 1:53:18 PM

I've always thought Taskmaster's UDON costume would be a good fit for the MCU.

Though looking at the whole of it, I suppose it's basically Crossbones with a hood and a mask.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99872: Apr 3rd 2019 at 3:05:01 PM

After the TV spot yesterday, I think we can assume the blanked out person here is Pepper.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99873: Apr 3rd 2019 at 3:41:03 PM

[up] I have decided to not watch any TV spots so could you please not describe what they contain here without using spoiler tags?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99874: Apr 3rd 2019 at 3:55:38 PM

The TV spot had lots of stuff. And things.

Anyway, shocking absolutely nobody, Alan Horn confirms at Cinemacon "You WILL be seeing more of Deadpool in the years ahead.

Edited by comicwriter on Apr 3rd 2019 at 4:04:41 AM

Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#99875: Apr 3rd 2019 at 4:00:29 PM

Finally watched Guardians of the Galaxy 2, and I'm left a bit puzzled. It's a visual masterpiece, no doubt about it, the action is fine, and it isn't impossible to follow like the first film, but what I don't understand is why some have been holding it up as a "formula breaker". It's a formula film through and through, just not the usual formula for the MCU. The villain is stock, the characters are lively but also quite shallow (the blue cyborg had a conflict with real pathos, but too little was done with it) and the climax is mostly predictable. And the secondary villains, the gilded guys and the pirates, are too stupid or incapable to be a threat.

The film is a fine watch, with a few flaws: Starlord saying he's fine being normal rings rather hollow when he's shown to be a one-man army, the last ten minutes or so are devoted to a death I don't care about, and even by the loose physics of space fantasy, I was bothered by how inconsistent gravity is (they have artificial gravity on that spaceship, why can't it keep things stable inside when it falls to the side?).

It stands out in the MCU only because it's a space opera rather than a superhero film. Which is fine for me, I have long wanted more space stuff that isn't Star Wars or Star Trek, but there's nothing really innovative here.

Edited by Reymma on Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:00:44 PM

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.

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