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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#99801: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:30:50 PM

You can ignore Agents of SHIELD. Everyone else does.
BLASPHEMY! Agents of SHIELD is the best! Everyone should watch it! Twice!

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99802: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:31:53 PM

no watch inhumans

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#99803: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:35:42 PM

I'm doing a chronological order MCU rewatch (meaning I watch CA:TFA and CM first) but only of the movies because I sure don't have enough time to watch the shows. I just finished the Avengers. This also resulted in me watching the Incredible Hulk for the first time which uh. At least satisfied my morbid curiosity about whether that movie is as aggressively mediocre as its reputation suggests. (It is. I fell asleep while watching it, but my computer also died so that meant it paused in the middle and I had to continue watching the rest when I woke up.)

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#99804: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:41:27 PM

Incredible Hulk has some good action, good characterization of the villain (there's a reason people still remember Abomination enough to add him to their wish-lists of MCU villain teams), and a few moments of good cinematography. Aside from that, it is painfully mediocre, and there are quite a few bad elements that balance out what good there is.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:41:41 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99805: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:45:20 PM

I saw Aang's lee Hulk and that was enough,really put me off any future Hulk films

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#99806: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:51:55 PM

I've been rewatching all of the movies for the last week. I'm on Doctor Strange right now.

This song needs more love.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#99807: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:52:00 PM

Incredible Hulk and Hulk are both not good films, but for very different reasons.

Hulk is an overly ambitious arthouse drama film designed to provoke emotions and get to the core of the character, but the execution was poor so it just ended up boring and confusing most of the time.

Incredible Hulk went the other direction and tried to just be a big action monster movie. It did well with the action, but it neglected too much of the rest of the film, making the characters and story fall flat.

Personally, I think Incredible Hulk is better, but mostly because it aspired to be nothing greater than it turned out to be, while Hulk took greater risks in its desire to be True Art, so it had much further to fall when it failed.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#99808: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:55:53 PM

I disagree. Hulk is a very flawed movie, yes, but it literally does everything better than Incredible Hulk except maybe the CGI. It has better characters, better drama, and is just plain more interesting than TIH will ever be. And TIH is at the least just as boring because it's incredibly generic and there's pretty much nothing to it other than Blonsky, who isn't even that great.

I can understand people disliking it, but it definitely has far more redeeming qualities than TIH and personally I think it's a better film than a lot of people have given it credit for.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Apr 2nd 2019 at 5:57:50 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#99809: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:56:55 PM

Ang Lee's Hulk was just a weird, weird movie. By the time I got to Nick Nolte literally chewing on the scenery, I was like, "What the hell is this movie."

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99810: Apr 2nd 2019 at 2:58:33 PM

and then you have mutant poodles and Jellyfish at the end (which is apparently a callback to the start of the film but I barely remember of it's beginning)

Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 2nd 2019 at 10:01:06 AM

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#99811: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:01:16 PM

Ang Lee's Hulk lost me at a lot of points. Like the cephalopod DNA mixing scene. Or the Hulk dogs. Or the terrible and incessant flashbacks. Or the really weird editing that kicks in just during the prison escape scene. Or how so much of the movie just doesn't matter because Bruce Banner just gets captured anyway.

Like, Incredible Hulk might be mediocre, but Ang Lee's Hulk just sucks. It's just straight-up bad.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#99812: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:06:07 PM

You can ignore Agents of SHIELD. Everyone else does.

I don't! It's great.

I'm assuming you mean how the films don't really acknowledge it, and not that well that first half of season 1 was bad (which I didn't think it was by the way), so it must still suck attitude that has been prevalent though I don't know why.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99813: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:07:19 PM

everyone needs to watch inhumans

v e r y o n e

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#99814: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:08:16 PM

I’m not a fan of either Hulk movie, but it’s interesting for me to remember that Hulk was one of the early attempts to adapt literal comic panels onscreen, which was eventually perfected with Spider-Verse.

Except it resulted in Narm like this. tongue

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#99815: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:08:44 PM

Yeah, the Talbot death is a joke. It's indefensible.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#99816: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:13:02 PM

...Why is Hulk baked into a giant pie crust?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99817: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:14:00 PM

Hulk pie is delicious thats why,you just need to bake in the oven untill its done

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#99818: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:45:37 PM

That's supposed to be foam that hardened to contain him.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#99819: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:48:05 PM

I can’t believe Talbot survived blowing himself up with a shell ricocheted off Hulk’s nipple only to get thrown into fucking space by Daisy

Edited by Bocaj on Apr 2nd 2019 at 6:49:13 AM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99820: Apr 2nd 2019 at 3:48:35 PM

should have tried concrete

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#99821: Apr 2nd 2019 at 4:42:53 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]But you can't eat the Inedible Hulk.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#99822: Apr 2nd 2019 at 4:59:08 PM

sigh Won't be able to watch CM before Endgame. I want to guarantee a good seat for the latter but the tickets are just too expensive for me to watch both in the same month.

Oh well.

[up]There's a dirty She-Hulk joke in there, but that's beneath me.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#99823: Apr 2nd 2019 at 6:26:34 PM

@ Voids Empathy

you know what? What if I decide to marathon the franchise!?

Already doing that. 1/3 done with Phase Two. Not sure how you can accomplish that before April 26.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#99824: Apr 2nd 2019 at 6:28:43 PM

I know this isn't the MCU, but damn if it isn't hilarious:

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#99825: Apr 2nd 2019 at 7:11:22 PM

Got my tickets for Sunday opening weekend. Everything was sold out except the earliest showing that day. At least there's assigned seating, so I'm not sitting in literally the first row like what happened to me for the Last Jedi.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.

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