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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99501: Mar 27th 2019 at 9:43:17 PM

That’s so accurate it hurts.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99503: Mar 28th 2019 at 2:34:31 AM

Another video about the music in the MCU, this time about the Thor Franchise. Really interesting explanation how the second differs from the first soundtrack.

Personally I lean more towards to the second, but I LOVE the Asgard theme from the first. Also, the use of the funeral score in Ragnarök is still my favourite joke in the movie.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99504: Mar 28th 2019 at 10:42:53 AM

New international Endgame poster. Valkyrie, Wong and the fallen heroes actually made it onto this one.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99505: Mar 28th 2019 at 10:45:12 AM

Whoa that's dope. [tup] [awesome]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99506: Mar 28th 2019 at 11:11:54 AM

1. I am impressed that they managed to fit 29 characters on this poster without it looking overcrowded at all.

2. I am very happy that they have moved Carol more to the front. Partly because the newest Anti-SJW BS is that Marvel should cut scenes with her out of the movie to lower the run-time. Now she is standing directly beside our six core avengers, like she should!

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 28th 2019 at 11:12:34 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#99507: Mar 28th 2019 at 11:23:47 AM

I’m very glad they didn’t introduce her as an after thought at the end of Age of Ultron

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#99508: Mar 28th 2019 at 11:26:58 AM

That is good. I like how the fallen heroes are shown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99509: Mar 28th 2019 at 11:52:07 AM

Hope must've been stepped on, unfortunately.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#99510: Mar 28th 2019 at 12:04:57 PM

"Total price: $59.24"

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#99511: Mar 28th 2019 at 12:47:33 PM

[up][up] Actually, Hope does appear on one of the black and white posters.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99512: Mar 28th 2019 at 12:51:05 PM

Yep, we had to wait long for Carol, but it was worth the wait.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99513: Mar 28th 2019 at 1:25:47 PM

[up][up][up] Mother of the Anti-Christ.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#99514: Mar 28th 2019 at 2:32:01 PM

That's the issue of Build A Figures. I have a random Hulkbuster arm lying around, though at least that makes more sense than a Thanos limb.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#99515: Mar 28th 2019 at 5:07:05 PM

Random theory since Valkyrie is showing up in the promos, it's not Carol or Thor who rescues Tony from the depths of space, but Valkyrie and the remaining Asgardians on their way to Earth.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#99516: Mar 28th 2019 at 6:39:42 PM

Interesting that they're going with the third act costume for Valkyrie and not the more "iconic" Saakar outfit.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#99517: Mar 28th 2019 at 6:44:09 PM

That's a really cool poster. some notes:

  • I hope it's not deemphasizing some characters, as some posters and markets sometimes do
  • The original 6 Avengers are in the center of it, of course
  • Some asymmetry in it, which would be remedied by putting Carol next to Thor, above Valkyrie, and slightly larger than Ant-Man
  • Was Vision also dusted after already being dead?
  • Gamora is also there, despite having died before the dusting. The other two major characters who died before it (Heimdall and Loki) are not included.
  • Ant Man's supporting cast is not pictured. Like Shuri, their fates weren't confirmed in Infinity War proper, but they also weren't in that movie, while she was.
  • I feel like the middleground of the image, in front of Thanos but behind the Avengers, is some combination of Cap's shield and Tony's arc reactor, and I wonder if this suggest they'll both die. Those two objects are also glowing heavily in the foreground, though so are War Machine's repulsor and some of Thor's lightning.
  • I've still got a bad feeling that despite Okoye's presence, Wakanda's characters are going to be an afterthought in the movie, like in Infinity War

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Mar 28th 2019 at 8:44:34 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99518: Mar 28th 2019 at 6:45:56 PM

> Was Vision also dusted after already being dead?

Well his inert body is no longer alive so it didn't really add to the tally i don't think

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#99519: Mar 28th 2019 at 6:47:19 PM

I think Vision and Gamora are there because they'll be resurrected somehow (time rewind and Soul Stone shenanigans, perhaps) and play a role in the film, whereas Heimdall and Loki are gone for good and Hank and Janet simply aren't in the film.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99520: Mar 28th 2019 at 7:08:00 PM

I could see Hank and Janet showing up in the movie in a cameo, but it being so minor that it doesn't really warrant advertising them to the audience.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#99521: Mar 28th 2019 at 8:04:46 PM

<Hank pops in>

Hank: Fuck Tony Stark!!!!

<Hank leaves>

Tony: Sounds about right. Least he didn't go for the nut shot.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Mar 28th 2019 at 9:04:59 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99522: Mar 28th 2019 at 8:06:18 PM

Would Tony even know who Hank is?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#99523: Mar 28th 2019 at 8:22:52 PM

He doesn't need to really. He's Tony Stark. The list of people who hate him starts with his own former teammates except for Rhodey and Thor and goes through most of the city.tongue

One Strip! One Strip!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#99524: Mar 28th 2019 at 8:23:14 PM

Hank's problem isn't mainly with Tony, but with Howard. Though Hank should have problems with Tony at that point, seeing as by then Tony's ego was responsible for explosive attacks on both coasts of the US, and he somehow used that to become more famous and profit from the destruction (events of Iron Man 2, 3, and the origin of Damage Control in Homecoming).

And while Hank is likely an Unreliable Narrator who is no treat to work with himself, that doesn't change that the films are rather polar on Howard, who already made unauthorized use of Hank's work, and once had a guy deported and disgraced and took all credit for his work, after that guy dared to... do the exact same thing that got Howard his position and billions (backstory of Iron Man 2).

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#99525: Mar 28th 2019 at 8:25:28 PM

Wasn't Vanko Sr. trying to sell the Arc Reactor tech to their enemies?

That's basically illegal right?

I also still want to think that Howard may have purposely did what he did to get Hank to leave on his own since we've suspected he was aware of the Hydra infiltration...though I don't think that theory holds much water anymore.

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