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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#99476: Mar 27th 2019 at 11:36:18 AM

Basically, every orientation has their flaws and not all LGBQT get along.

Also, Steve is bisexual you pussies.

Edit: Well, this is a weird page topper tongue

Edited by fasoman1996 on Mar 27th 2019 at 3:36:40 PM

Uni cat
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99477: Mar 27th 2019 at 11:39:36 AM

> you pussies.

-hisses,cat scratch-

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99478: Mar 27th 2019 at 11:41:13 AM

As is natural of humans...... we can’t ever fucking get along.

Ultron was right. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#99479: Mar 27th 2019 at 12:04:27 PM

[up][up] Hey, i found Goose's account. Guess that's what you have been up to for the past two decades

Uni cat
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#99480: Mar 27th 2019 at 1:53:10 PM

All right, "Avenge the Fallen" is REALLY spreading on Twitter. So far, we got posters of:

...You guys sure we can't wait until 2 weeks before Endgame drops? Because it's too much, man!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 27th 2019 at 5:17:35 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#99481: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:02:54 PM

You know what I realized I'm most looking forward to with the X-Men joining the MCU?

...the eventual break away from Extinction events, humans creating Sentinels to MDK mutants every twenty minutes, and life being 24/7 misery for them.

Even the Fox Films kinda fell back on that, what with Logan revealing that an evil conspiracy used genetics to secretly wipe out all mutants, and the handful we see during the movie might be the last of them, ultimately showing that even turning back time to give them a better chance only threw their destruction down the road and made people be more stealthy about it.

But with the MCU screwing with our expectations whenever they get a chance, this might be an opportunity to finally, finally break out of the circular mindset they've been defined by when it's comes to the X franchise. they might actually think of new stories for them. We might see Mutant / Human relations improve. We might at least see other heroes doing more than saying not my problem (which is more a meta thing, but writers have been making the mistake of incorporating it into the narrative when it shouldn't be).

One Strip! One Strip!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#99482: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:59:12 PM

If mutants are supposed to be an allegory for civil rights/race relations then I don't imagine their situation is going to improve/the circular storytelling will change until ours does.

Maybe that's what makes their story so impactful - the mutant phobia never really ends no matter how much time travel/wish fulfillment gets thrown at it, it just gets postponed.

whatever it takes

That MML 3 speaks to me and I didn't even like those games.

Edited by Soble on Mar 27th 2019 at 4:02:47 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#99483: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:01:29 PM

The only way to change things is make a majority of the population into mutants.

They'll find new ways to discriminate and hate instead. Like discriminating on mutants whose appearance visibly change permanently

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Mar 27th 2019 at 4:01:52 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99484: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:03:30 PM

There shall be one mutant in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and he shall be called...Wolverine

Thus decreed the One Above all

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#99485: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:06:00 PM

The face of real life racism has changed as has the face of prejudice in general

Victories have been made, incremental and otherwise

X Men keeps going back to the death robots well though

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#99486: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:11:49 PM

[up]

Exactly. Things are still very shitty. That much is an unfortunate truth.

But with Xmen, absolutely zero progress has been made. In fact things have only gotten worse and worse for mutants, and that can't stand.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99487: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:13:36 PM

Mutants can't have culture & large populations cause then they'll no longer be a minority.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#99488: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:16:28 PM

How bad is it for mutants right now? I thought they were making a comeback after "No More Mutants."

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#99489: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:17:55 PM

Mutants can't have culture & large populations cause then they'll no longer be a minority.

Uh, apartheid South Africa.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99490: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:19:05 PM

[up] Good, now show that to the head honchos at Marvel.

Was Quesada the one who said that?

[up][up] That was a long while ago.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 27th 2019 at 4:20:20 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#99491: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:30:50 PM

The human x mutant relationships can evolve without actually breaking the premise. Like, Black people still suffer a lot of prejudice, but things are certainly different now than they were in 1860 or even 1960. Things can evolve in meaningful and interesting ways without constantly falling back to the same plots. An interesting things to change is to do what Grant Morrison did in the comics in the early 2000s. To eventually start portraying mutants as its own culture, with its own communities and internal dynamics. Admittedly, that would pull off in the MCU, due the time scale.

The sad thing to me is that portraying these evolution would be much easier to do in the Fox series. There the mutants wouldn't have to keep up with other heroes and, thus, wouldn't need to follow the more or less real time passage of time the MCU has. They could, and had, have flashbacks and time skips, which would allow for a much more organic evolution than what MCU will be able to.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#99493: Mar 27th 2019 at 4:47:49 PM

All Im hearing is we should summon more Death Robot to nurder mutants.That will solve the problem!

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#99494: Mar 27th 2019 at 5:12:40 PM

I was discussing J Jonah Jameson with someone who argued that there was no real way to fit him into the MCU. So how would you fit him in though? I could see him being a Cable news pundit (have his channel be called the Jackal News Network as a nod to both JJJ's Spider-Ham counterpart and the villain). I'd also keep his position towards mutants as well (as far as I know, he's pro-mutant rights), just to show that Everyone Has Standards .

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99495: Mar 27th 2019 at 5:16:15 PM

The Spider-Man PS 4 game made him a loudmouth Alex Jones-style podcaster. Just go with that.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#99496: Mar 27th 2019 at 7:08:14 PM

Jameson would be fine should we ever get characters with a more "regular person" perspective. Which we might soon, or might not (there are no revealed plans for a new hero with an everyday person's perspective, but we're getting hints that Kamala's coming sometime soon, plus there's always the next Ant-Man movie, maybe).

But I doubt he'll be showing up in Far From Home, besides maybe something similar to Amazing Spider-Man's "shows up in a text message" scene. That movie takes place halfway across the planet, away from any good places to introduce him in a meaningful way.

That said, I could totally see him showing up in Endgame, as part of the world. "DUST TO DUST! AVENGERS CAUSE PANIC ACROSS THE GLOBE! pg 4." Or as a pundit, talking about how badly they've failed, to set the stage for how gloomy the post-snap world is. Something of an Early-Bird Cameo, essentially.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 27th 2019 at 7:10:04 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#99498: Mar 27th 2019 at 9:18:37 PM

I'll admit that Angelina Jolie would make a pretty damn good Sersi. And Disney already has a good working relationship with her (especially now that she's doing a second Maleficent movie) and it's good to see that they aren't afraid of hiring a woman older than 40 for a lead role (although I don't know if they would have done so if she wasn't, you know, Angelina Jolie).

[up] Dan Olsen is always a treasure.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 27th 2019 at 9:19:31 AM

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#99499: Mar 27th 2019 at 9:25:40 PM

[up][up]Speaking of joke tweets... tongue

Edited by MapleSamurai on Mar 27th 2019 at 9:25:55 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#99500: Mar 27th 2019 at 9:28:38 PM

HAH

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