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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#99176: Mar 24th 2019 at 7:52:56 AM

Mean character, nice actor, fancy British accent, pretty lean boy next to buff Thor, etc.

Zanthype from The Tardis Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#99177: Mar 24th 2019 at 7:56:40 AM

It helps that I originally found Thor kind of insufferable at the beginning of his movie. He reminded me of every asshole jock in high school I ever met that was buff and popular and thought they deserved a reward for it. I know it's intentional and he goes through a huge change, but teenage me had a chip on my shoulder because of guys like that. Loki was like the nerdy and lean alternative out of the two of them.

Edited by Zanthype on Mar 24th 2019 at 7:57:16 AM

"In 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99178: Mar 24th 2019 at 8:04:52 AM

Loki is just an incredible complex character. That makes him interesting, more interesting than Thor.

Ava? Who is Ava?

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#99179: Mar 24th 2019 at 8:09:23 AM

Well to be honest and fair, none of the Avengers, except maybe Tony, are particularly complex.

Edited by Forenperser on Mar 24th 2019 at 4:09:31 PM

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#99180: Mar 24th 2019 at 8:14:18 AM

[up][up] Ghost.

I for one, woukd go for a glorious death with Hela, Ava, Ayesha... And does Bucky count as a villian in Winter soldier or is it chearing evil grin?

Edited by eligram on Mar 24th 2019 at 11:14:40 AM

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#99181: Mar 24th 2019 at 8:17:52 AM

I mean, Stane outright ripped Tony's heart out, Bucky tried to kill Steve, and Ultron tried to kill both of his dads.

Ain't nobody lusting after Evil Steve Jobs, Winter Soldier, or Robot Downey Jr. I stand corrected, Bucky's in.

Then again I can't argue being evil and having an accent doesn't make you attractive - again, Hela. But, that's Cate Blanchett. She's perfection in mortal form.

Edited by Soble on Mar 24th 2019 at 8:18:19 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#99183: Mar 24th 2019 at 8:49:02 AM

Looks the same as her debut costume, just with shoulder pads.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#99184: Mar 24th 2019 at 8:50:20 AM

Yeah, it's just got more gold on its sleeves. Which is fine by me, I liked her debut costume so I'm glad it didn't get changed up too much.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99185: Mar 24th 2019 at 8:55:55 AM

Well, apparently there are people lusting after Thanos, so.....

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#99186: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:00:45 AM

I hate her new hair. Maintaining that level of straight-ness is really time-consuming, and it looks too… Super feminine for her. It doesn’t fit her style.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#99187: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:06:00 AM

The upside is now she can go super saiyan 2

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#99188: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:08:14 AM

As long as it's not this. Stay the heck away from that. Mohawk hairstyles need to go away.

[up] (3) Blasted chin-fetishists.

Edited by Soble on Mar 24th 2019 at 9:09:24 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99189: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:12:18 AM

at least she's not a Bald Woman

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99190: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:15:51 AM

It might not look quite as orderly in the actual movie.

Only one month waiting time left now….

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#99191: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:28:38 AM

Carol’s cockatoo hair is one of my favorite looks for her

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#99192: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:30:02 AM

[up]x4 HERESY! Mohawks are fantastic, and women with mohawks are perfection!!

REPENT, SINNER!

[up]x3 What's the problem with bald women? Baldness on a woman can look fantastic. Danai Gurira looked super nice.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 24th 2019 at 1:30:20 PM

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#99193: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:34:33 AM

Danai Gurira was so gorgeous with the bald Dora Milaje style that I wanted to cry. Oh my god. And she did super cool designs on her head for the various red carpet events.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#99194: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:35:10 AM

Doesn't it take just as much time to maintain the wavyness her hair had in her debut movie also? Those looked very much like curl-ironed... curls, to me.

Oh man, the cockatoo hair... I love the helmet mohawk (and I know [[spoilers:she doesn't technically need the helmet anymore]] but I would love to see the helmet mohawk again in future movies) but without the helmet in the comics it just looked weird. Maybe because I do not like fauxhawks.

Danai Guirira looks amazing bald. Honestly all the Dora Milaje in Black Panther looked great.

Edited by DeathsApprentice on Mar 24th 2019 at 12:35:56 PM

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#99195: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:35:20 AM

Nothing against bald women but it's overused,least thats how I feel about it

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99196: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:53:04 AM

Honestly, her hair looks fine in the trailer, so why are we worrying about it? We are we constantly obsessing over the hair do of the female Avengers? Some people spend more time discussing the colour of Natasha's hair than anything else in the trailer.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#99197: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:55:29 AM

Well I'd also like to discuss Steve's Beard of Sorrow.

Infinity Beard.

Winter Beard.

The First Beard of the Avengers because forget Thor.

It seems that stepping foot into Wakanda makes your hairstyle change - Natasha's blond the next we see her, Steve and Bucky get beards.

Avengers: Endbeard.

Edited by Soble on Mar 24th 2019 at 9:58:51 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#99198: Mar 24th 2019 at 9:57:30 AM

But the way Natasha's hair looks at any given scene in the trailer gives us clues at how much times passes.

For instance, in the end with Carol and Thor, that takes place at the very beginning of the film, because her hair looks exactly like it was in IW, while the scene where she's slouched on a chair talking to Steve takes place close to the end of the first arc, as her hair is quite long and mostly red.

Which also tells us the first arc of the fiom probably takes place in a span of months, if not years, because hair just doesn't get that long overnight.

[up]My mom hates beards, she says it ruined Steve's looks.

Which is a shame, as the promise of Evans pretty face and abs were the only reliable way I could convince her to put a Marvel film on movie nights.

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 24th 2019 at 1:59:01 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#99199: Mar 24th 2019 at 10:00:41 AM

Respect The Beard.

The Beard is God, it is Life, it will kick your ass like none have ever done before.

So heralded by Kuroki Gensai.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 24th 2019 at 10:00:57 AM

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#99200: Mar 24th 2019 at 10:02:07 AM

[up][up] Word of God is that the trailer is intentionally edited/CGI'ed to be deceptive, and (flashbacks notwithstanding) uses scenes and dialog not present in the film. Counting on anything in there to accurately reflect the story or the progression of time is a loser's game. The Russos don't want it to reveal anything meaningful, and outright state that they are lying in it.

About all we can likely count on is that Natasha is short/blonde in the beginning, and goes for longer/red at some point, just as Steve loses the beard at some point. Beyond that it's completely up in the air.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 24th 2019 at 1:05:02 PM

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