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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99051: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:55:32 AM

Well, there is time. There are so many properties Marvel studios can explore.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#99052: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:57:05 AM

So, I've been thinking about a posible Secret Invasion storyline, and I believe it could work even with the Skrulls being good. I mean, only Carol and Fury know they're good, the Kree could use that to their advantage. Make it that the Skrulls are hiding within earth from them, and they telling earth that they're being invaded. And hell, one could make the humans the villians as all aliens from their view wants to invade earth.

There's potential for a great Bait-and-Switch plot there.

Edited by eligram on Mar 21st 2019 at 12:59:36 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#99053: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:58:56 AM

People seem really hung up on Secret Invasion.

Why this particular event?

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#99054: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:02:33 AM

I thought the same until I saw the storyline in EMH cartoon and the aftermath. It has a great potential for the MCU.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#99055: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:04:57 AM

If certain people end up killed off in Finity Endgame, having imposters of them show up a la that thing that happened in Secret Invasion would be a good kick in the gut for the world and audience.

But I still want the Skrulls a thousand miles away from any sort of Secret Invasion plot.

It was a bad look then that refugees that lost their home were trying to infiltrate and take Earthmerica's and its if anything gotten worse.

Fifth Column stories just don't work the same as they once did.

Edited by Bocaj on Mar 21st 2019 at 11:06:00 AM

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#99056: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:08:26 AM

[up][up]Because saying “that stupid thing someone I liked did was really an alien doppelgänger” is an easy way to excuse stuff.

“Pete doesn’t like Michelle! He’s a Skrull!”

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 21st 2019 at 11:08:58 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99057: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:08:56 AM

Yep, EMH is the reason. The secret invasion was maybe my favourite storyline in it. I mean, it had everything, mistrust, surprising twists, Cap breaking out of prison and I think one of my favourite episodes, Cap having to deal with the people who used to trust him without question calling him a traitor for something he didn't even do. I always wanted a more elaborate version of this storyline. Preferable WITH Cap, which is one of the reasons why I want them to lock Chris Evans into a contract now and do the storyline before it is too late.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#99058: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:10:32 AM

I guess crisis crossovers are easier to adapt? Civil War was done in a single movie, some of them are bad (well, I would include comics Civil War in that so maybe not), some have too many characters that haven't been introduced yet... I'm not entirely sure how people have landed on Secret Invasion quite frequently though; the news that Captain Marvel includes Skrulls was kind of a mark in its favour but actually seeing the film kind of negates that. I've also seen Annihilation thrown around a bit, Dark Reign occasionally.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#99059: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:16:55 AM

An adaptation of one of the cosmic war storylines might be an interesting idea with the cosmic status quo disrupted by Thanos.

I think though that you'd be limited in what you can do with that because a lot of the mini-franchises wouldn't be served getting stuck in space.

Maybe a mini arc for the cosmic based properties.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99060: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:29:34 AM

There are a couple of reasons why I landed on Secret Invasion (or is it Secret wars?) other then me liking the storyline in EMH.

1. It is something they can built up really well. Like, they can just do a Marvel movie without worrying about any kind of arc but then throw in an after credit scene revealing that character x has been replaced for a while, having the whole audience guessing who will be next and if those are the only characters which have been replaced and then wrap it up in one big movie (or two, if you do one about the prison break and then a second one about the battle on earth). It doesn't even have to be a three phase arc, they can do it in one arc.

2. It is a new kind of channel for the heroes. I mean, I guess you still might get the big action set-piece in the end, but beforehand you can have a lot of smaller fights and revelations. Worked with The Winter Soldier, can work here too. And the paranoia would be so much worse, because EVERYONE could be a Skrull, no matter how much we trust him or her.

3. And it would affect all characters in the long time in a way no other arc would. I mean, how would you feel discovering that you closest friend was kidnapped and imprisoned somewhere and you didn't even know?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#99061: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:31:33 AM

I suggest possibly using Dire Wraiths or Space Phantomuses instead.

And also use the Kree trying to push the narrative that its Skrulls.

Edited by Bocaj on Mar 21st 2019 at 11:32:04 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99062: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:39:00 AM

Naturally another possible "building threat" would be galactus. But there isn't really THAT much to built with him….

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#99063: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:46:50 AM

The Ultimate universe managed to get a whole (bad) trilogy out of the approach of Gah Lak Tus

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#99064: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:51:45 AM

Wasn't Gah Lak Tus also what they called Cloud! Galactus in Rise of the Silver Surfer?

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#99065: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:54:36 AM

I kind of hope they taking step back from the big cosmic threats for a bit and focus more on recurring Earth-based ones.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99066: Mar 21st 2019 at 9:02:06 AM

T He issue with Earth based threats is that they usually don't require the full might of the Avengers.

Btw, Captain Marvel has passed the 800 million mark...faster than I thought, but the movie seems to have legs. The week to week drop if you go by weekdays seems to be at around 50%

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 21st 2019 at 9:22:22 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#99067: Mar 21st 2019 at 9:19:21 AM

There are so many properties Marvel studios can explore.

Mojoworld or we riot.

Also...did eligram just spoil Captain Marvel? Because I have made an effort to not read up on anything until after I saw it...

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 21st 2019 at 12:21:09 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#99069: Mar 21st 2019 at 9:27:28 AM

[up][up] No...he was referring to a fan theory which I can't explain without spoiling Captain Marvel. But he should be more careful. We all should be.

And we should all stick to the story that the Skrulls are totally evil for now….

Edited by Swanpride on Mar 21st 2019 at 9:27:37 AM

RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#99070: Mar 21st 2019 at 9:33:06 AM

I think the MCU is the only continuity where there is more justification for "Avengers" name than Wasp's "lol it sounds cool."

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99071: Mar 21st 2019 at 9:42:54 AM

[up][up][up]"Didn't that bug kid die too?" "Who?"

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#99072: Mar 21st 2019 at 10:01:31 AM

Whoops. My bad. Fixed. Sorry. But indeed, is only a fan theory that I bought.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#99073: Mar 21st 2019 at 10:04:27 AM

[up][up][up]The old cartoon (Earth's Mightiest Heroes) tried to give a slight underpinning by having her come up with the name after Iron Man gives a speech about avenging those who were hurt during a big supervillain jailbreak, but yeah, pretty much.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#99074: Mar 21st 2019 at 10:07:11 AM

Just do the original five for now, Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel, and Jean. And give Angel his bazooka.

...what bazooka?

One Strip! One Strip!
RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#99075: Mar 21st 2019 at 10:10:04 AM

Angel's holds a bazooka in X-Men #1's cover.

https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/12413/uncanny_x-men_1963_1

Edited by RAlexa21th on Mar 21st 2019 at 10:10:40 AM

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