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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#98901: Mar 20th 2019 at 12:14:16 AM

Yeah. I don't think any of them were problems. It was fanservice.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98902: Mar 20th 2019 at 1:33:16 AM

I have to add that some of the things which are sometimes pointed to as plot holes or changes in the continuity aren't actually either. Ie Coulson "no knowing" that his "new Agency" is called Shield. To me it was always pretty obvious that Coulson just keeps using this long-a... name because nobody would bother to remember it. So he goes in, debriefs, and in the end he will be only remembered as this guy from the agency with the complicated name. As soon as it is clear that they will have more dealings with Tony Stark, he clarifies that they are called Shield.

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#98903: Mar 20th 2019 at 2:25:18 AM

Okay, they have changed something you could only know if you freeze frame Got G.

And, given what little plot details of Guardians 3 we've heard of, it's not gonna be the only time. Rocket's wife, Lylla, was mentioned in the text as an 'accomplice', but it sounds like Guardians 3 will be their first meeting.

Gort Since: Sep, 2010
#98904: Mar 20th 2019 at 2:27:51 AM

Prague? Where in Infinity War were there scenes in Prague? I remember New York, Edinburgh, Wakanda and the offworld stuff. Is there a director’s cut I missed?

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#98905: Mar 20th 2019 at 3:43:01 AM

Maybe scenes filmed in Prague but set elsewhere?

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Gort Since: Sep, 2010
#98906: Mar 20th 2019 at 4:04:20 AM

I know the Edinburgh scenes were shot there because the city’s official tourist information site has a map to the locations, so now I’m even more confused [lol]

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#98907: Mar 20th 2019 at 6:22:30 AM

Edinburgh, my bad. I was confusing locations with Far From Home when I said Prague.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98909: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:10:33 AM

Sure.

What's with the Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer?

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#98910: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:13:43 AM

But X Men showed up in Deadpool

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#98911: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:15:35 AM

[up][up] Unknown, but let's be honest, they're probably (as in, 99.9999999% likely) getting the reboot treatment too.

And hey, considering their last movie, they can't go anywhere but up, am I right?

[up] You jest, but don't be surprised if the next time DP shows up, he's going to point it out.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 20th 2019 at 1:16:40 PM

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#98912: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:18:13 AM

He's definitely going to point it out.

He's Deadpool. That's his whole thing.

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#98914: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:25:29 AM

Totally. I am 100% looking forward to the cracks Deadpool makes about the Disney acquisition.

I hope he brings up the obvious Helicarrier from the first film that he wasn't allowed to explicitly call a Helicarrier to avoid Disney's ire. That's hilarious in hindsight.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98915: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:33:33 AM

And the fact that Bob was totally an Agent of Hydra. (In fact, bring back Bob, Agent of Hydra, please. He can replace TJ Miller's Weasel.)

Funny thought: now that Deadpool is going to officially be a part of the MCU, Kevin Feige has already made good his promise of including LGBT characters. In the past. Via Negasonic Teenage Warhead. (Also, more Negasonic Teenage Warhead, please.)

Edited by alliterator on Mar 20th 2019 at 10:36:14 AM

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#98916: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:38:16 AM

Also tell us how to make Gale's tuna casserole!

And make a movie about Cable overcoming his racism!

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#98917: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:43:58 AM

Actually, just re-cast Weasel.

That's another joke they can make (maybe at Miller expense too, since if I recall, he did something pretty nasty).

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#98918: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:49:43 AM

So, the X-Men are getting a reboot In-Universe with the MCU? That could get hairy, continuity-wise. On the one hand, you can easily have something happen that spontaneously creates a bunch of mutants, but for there to be mutants that always already existed (Xavier and Magneto at a minimum) means that they stayed amazingly quiet through all the events that have happened up until then. Captain America and Captain Marvel were put on buses to avoid this problem, but you can't pack a whole contingent of mutants in someone's freezer and then conveniently let them out again without someone asking questions.

My thinking is that a lot of this hinges on how Endgame resolves. If we just turn back time and undo the Decimation, that's one thing. The prior continuity would still hold. But if we alter reality in some more significant way, or even shift universes, it opens up the door for future plots. Maybe the way the Infinity Stones are dealt with sends "mutant energy" into the universe. There are lots of possibilities.

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 20th 2019 at 1:54:47 PM

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#98919: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:52:45 AM

Via Negasonic Teenage Warhead.

And Yukio. But let’s not give Feige too much credit. Someone else putting in gay characters that he then happened to buy alongside a bunch of others isn’t him fulfilling his words yet.

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#98920: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:53:53 AM

[up]You could easily handle that with the X-Men reboot, although it could carry the unfortunate implication of associating LGBTQ people with mutants, as if they are "unnatural".

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 20th 2019 at 1:54:20 PM

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#98921: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:55:16 AM

Thank God we will be rid of Jennifer Lawrence Mystique forever.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 20th 2019 at 10:55:36 AM

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#98922: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:56:21 AM

[up][up]Hasn't the X-Men been a LGBT allegory for over a decade, now?

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#98923: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:57:52 AM

[up]In the sense that they are considered outcasts because of what they are, absolutely. I just wonder about making the correlation more direct. It could easily fall flat.

"The first LGBT characters introduced in the MCU are mutants. What a coincidence."

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 20th 2019 at 1:58:25 PM

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#98924: Mar 20th 2019 at 10:58:46 AM

Ironic that they're referring to the Snop as Decimation when it was originally a term for what Wanda did to the mutants.

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#98925: Mar 20th 2019 at 11:00:29 AM

I really, really hope that they don't kick off the mutants arc by having the Avengers think of them as monsters that must be destroyed...

Edited by Fighteer on Mar 20th 2019 at 2:00:38 PM

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