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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#98851: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:29:12 PM

The revenge motivation is something that really bothers me for Garfield Spiderman

Uni cat
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98852: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:33:03 PM

My father is strangely attached to Maguire’s Spider-Man.

Then again this is the same guy who thinks Charlie Sheen from Two and a Half-Man is a badass.

That guy isn’t a badass isn’t he?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#98853: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:36:05 PM

Despite my nostalgia for Maguire's Spider-Man, I really don't get it when some people try to elevate him to the level of being the perfect actor for the character like RDJ is for Tony Stark.

Edited by LordVatek on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:36:17 AM

This song needs more love.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#98854: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:38:27 PM

[up][up][up]I just think he's Unintentionally Unsympathetic due to the sloppy scriptwriting/directing.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:38:54 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98855: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:42:15 PM

Please someone agree with me that Charlie Harper isn’t a badass because my father Goddamn badgers me about how he’s a badass every day.

It’s all he talks about & it annoying as Hell.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 19th 2019 at 7:42:37 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98856: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:44:07 PM

[up]Drug abuse, domestic violence, 9/11 conspiracy theories, and antivax are the opposite of badass.

Edited by TheAirman on Mar 19th 2019 at 9:46:18 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98857: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:46:49 PM

Technically he’s primarily an alcoholic but yeah he’s a substance abuser alright.

I tell him that but he keeps countering with how he’s financially successful & sleeps with tons of women despite being ultimately unhappy writing jingles & being unable to maintain a proper relationship along with treating women terribly.

Wait I’m talking about the character from the show but yeah I’ll take the stuff about the person too. [tup]

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 19th 2019 at 7:47:36 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98858: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:48:12 PM

Alcohol is a drug. Period.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98859: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:49:55 PM

Good enough.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#98860: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:51:18 PM

Your father has some very shallow and frankly fucked up ideas of what makes a man successful. Sadly, your father is not alone in this regard.

Edited by M84 on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:51:32 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98861: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:56:03 PM

Honestly I think he just still doesn’t understand what the word means exactly.

I’ve had to explain multiple times the difference between jackass & dumbass & I can't tell if he’s screwing with me or not.

Really I wouldn’t mind his joy of watching Two and a Half-Man if he didn’t talk about it so much. It’s become tedious since he keeps asking me the same questions over & over again.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 19th 2019 at 7:57:00 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#98862: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:57:12 PM

Danny Devito Wolverine or riot

"That's my character! I'm the Wolverine! I come out, I pop claws- claws from my hands! And then, I start bein' the best at what I do, bub!"

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#98864: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:30:08 PM

Speaking of Fox it seems that the MCU is starting to get careless with it’s continuity lately starting with Homecoming. Ironically, the X-Men stopped caring when the franchise became 9 years old just like the MCU.

The timeline error in Homecoming, changing the details regarding Gamora’s race, and the creation of the Infinity Gauntlet could have written off as simple mistakes. But with Captain Marvel they just didn’t give a fuck. Lol

Edited by ManOfSin on Mar 19th 2019 at 11:40:54 AM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98865: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:40:41 PM

As far as Gamora's people are concerned, the only word we have to take on them being around and well fed is that of a delusional, genocidal maniac. Frankly I see no reason to take Thanos at his word, and think he's just bullshitting if not actively gaslighting. He wants to prove himself right to a bunch of dead people, and the first and only thing he does after the snap is not to examine the consequences, but to fuck off to some planet with no one in sight to retire as an isolated farmer. Somehow I imagine the actual government is a bit more reliable with its intel.

And what timeline/continuity errors in Captain Marvel are you referring to?

Edited by TheAirman on Mar 19th 2019 at 10:42:26 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#98866: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:43:42 PM

I figure Gamora referring to herself as the last of her kind in Guardians 1 has been retconned, or else it would make no sense why Thanos would claim “they’re thriving now” or Gamora immediately point out the obvious.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 19th 2019 at 8:47:31 AM

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#98867: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:46:45 PM

[up]Eh, my takeaway from that is that they might have been thriving, or at least came back to some semblance of stability, and then Thanos wiped out half the planet all over again in the snap, so they're back to square one. Again.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#98868: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:47:43 PM

[up][up][up]

Fury said that it was the events of Thor that made them realize that they were not alone in the universe when the Avengers questioned why SHEILD were making Tesseract-based weapons.

On top of that there were plenty of emergencies where Fury could have used Carol’s help. Avengers, Winter Soldier, and Age of Ultron where the hero nearly failed. Another alien war was about to happen, HYDRA was a second away from killing millions, and Ultron was seeking to wipe out humanity.

Edited by ManOfSin on Mar 19th 2019 at 11:48:54 AM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98869: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:50:34 PM

All Gamora has to say on the subject in Guardians is that Thanos took her planet and killed her parents in front of her. Which we see in IW to be true (unless your one of those people who insists that every individual word must be taken at its most literal meaning - technically she was looking at Thanos when gave the order to open fire; but come on, she was right fucking there).

Its the Nova Corps profile that says she's the last of her race.

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ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#98870: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:52:34 PM

[up][up]

In addition, Fury knew about HYDRA’s plan and said that he couldn’t really trust anyone. Seems that he forgot about Carol.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#98871: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:54:07 PM

I’m really hoping that comes back in Endgame. That Gamora really is the last, and Thanos lied.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#98872: Mar 19th 2019 at 8:58:11 PM

[up]x4 For the first point, he never said that he learned there were aliens. He said that everyone learned that. Which is still true.

For the second, the whole point of the Avenger Initiative was so that Earth had its own defense force. He would have called Carol if he figured they couldn't handle it, which they could.

Also, (Endgame spoilers) Carol outright says that she wouldn't have come because she was too busy and Earth had the Avengers.

Edited by LordVatek on Mar 19th 2019 at 12:00:22 PM

This song needs more love.
ManOfSin Since: Mar, 2015
#98873: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:02:57 PM

Again, it was a response to the Avengers questioning why SHEILD was making Tesseract-based weapons. So he was referring to SHEILD, not the public. You are seriously trying to argue that this isn’t a retcon?

And in the Winter Soldier Fury said he didn’t know who to trust besides Steve.

Edited by ManOfSin on Mar 19th 2019 at 12:06:13 PM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#98874: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:05:07 PM

Does it really matter if it is?

This song needs more love.
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#98875: Mar 19th 2019 at 9:06:17 PM

[up][up]Fury met an alien, things blew over, or he opposed Phase II as long as possible.

Then Thor demolishes a town and the world security council goes TIME FOR MAGIC SPACE NUKES SHUT UP FURY. Not a retcon.

Edited by wisewillow on Mar 19th 2019 at 12:07:04 PM


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