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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98826: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:05:06 PM

[up]I can meet you two thirds of the way with one Daniel Michael DeVito Jr.

Edited by TheAirman on Mar 19th 2019 at 6:05:27 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#98828: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:07:30 PM

I really don't want to see any more Wolverine any time soon. Even if they introduce the X-men, I want them to focus on pretty much everyone BUT Wolverine. I never got this obsession with Wolverine anyway, but I also think that it is better to wait until there is truly an appetite for a new version of him.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#98829: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:11:36 PM

I want the story to be something other than Mutant cures & discrimination.

There's a lot to the X-Men beyond that.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#98830: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:13:18 PM

[up]I can meet you two thirds of the way with one Daniel Michael De Vito Jr.
Look, I love De Vito but I am also a patriot. Although, I suppose I would be willing to accept if we also get Alpha Flight and Squirrel Girl in the deal.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#98831: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:14:47 PM

I kind of think Wolverine should be Laura instead of Logan.

This song needs more love.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98832: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:14:56 PM

Yes, come on, we need a live-action Unbeatable Squirrel Girl movie starring Milana Vayntrub.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#98833: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:21:50 PM

I want the story to be something other than Mutant cures & discrimination.

There's a lot to the X-Men beyond that.

Yeah. There's nearly being rendered extinct and being nearly wiped out by Sentinels and being nearly wiped out by the Inhumans....

What?

Edit: I also agree with the give Wolverine a break angle. I don't hate him, but I do admit he's kinda stolen the thunder from his fellow X-people for far too long. His so-called popularity is probably the biggest reason he's actually pretty unpopular, which isn't anything new mind you.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Mar 19th 2019 at 5:23:02 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98834: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:24:16 PM

Did you say just Inhumans?

There's no such thing,slavers who live on the moon,what a silly idea,ridiculous even

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#98835: Mar 19th 2019 at 4:54:30 PM

Agents of Shield had the best Inhumans take in that they were almost basically just X Men

Still though. Quake fun.

Also Squirrel Girl is probably going to be in that New Warriors show Marvel is shopping around

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#98836: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:09:06 PM

Unless he did something scummy behind the scenes (perfectly plausable, this is Hollywood, after all), I think saying one "despises" an actor just because you don't like their interpretation of a character seems a touch too far.

That aside, yes to no more Wolverine for a while, Nightcrawler needs his time in the sun, paradoxical as though that sentence may be. It's not even the character, either: Hugh Jackman has left such an impression whoever comes along will have impossibly big shoes to fill.

I also think they should keep Xavier as a behind-the-scenes presence at first, and only introduce Magneto later. I do wish they keep the characterization from the Singer movies with them, particularly Xavier. None of that ephebophilia and manipulative bastardry bullshit, thank you very much.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#98837: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:19:34 PM

I also think they should keep Xavier as a behind-the-scenes presence at first, and only introduce Magneto later. I do wish they keep the characterization from the Singer movies with them, particularly Xavier. None of that ephebophilia and manipulative bastardry bullshit, thank you very much.

Yes to Xavier being a good person. The comics gave him so many dark secrets that it ruined him. I get that he didn't need to be perfect, but there's a fine line between flawed and secretly a manipulative asshole and a fuck up.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#98838: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:42:28 PM

He was kind of a manipulative asshole from the start

All later reveals did was confirm it for modern readers less familiar with stuff like him letting a shapeshifter die in his place so he could fight Lucifer

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98839: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:47:43 PM

Dude can read minds,of couse he's an arsewhole that what that power leads to,if anything the films made him too heroic

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#98840: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:52:29 PM

[up][up]

That was a Retcon.

I don't care what anyone says: they went overboard with the Charles did a bad thing reveals. It tainted everything he did to the point where it's no wonder the X-Men's cause seems pointless.

They kept shooting the messenger over and over again, until the message was also bullet ridden.

I like nice Xavier. He should stay. He should make mistakes and be flawed, but not a complete jackass.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#98841: Mar 19th 2019 at 5:54:15 PM

I agree that Xavier being a good person is for the best. He's meant to be a Martin Luthor King Jr stand-in, and while MLK had a few flaws, he was also a wonderful person and a hero.

He first met the Lizard in the Everglades, somehow he showed up in Mexico just in time to save the Avengers from a Spider-Man robot, and went to the Savage Land with Jameson and Gwen Stacy

He also went to Algeria investigating whether or not his parents were traiters working for HYDRA (they were actually double-agents working for SHIELD).

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#98842: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:04:49 PM

Soble leaps into the fray!

The editing on this is slick, and, feeling a little desensitized lately towards the action in these movies, reminded me just how batsh-t these films are. They captured the scene of Cap and T'Challa racing ahead of the crowd during the fight with the Black Order perfectly.

The song is from Naruto Shippuden's sixteenth opening.

Edited by Soble on Mar 19th 2019 at 6:07:24 AM

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#98843: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:28:06 PM

Wasn't that posted here like two days ago? Or am I just getting deja vu?

Edited by TheAirman on Mar 19th 2019 at 8:28:39 AM

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Zanthype from The Tardis Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#98844: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:36:07 PM

I saw so much Toby hate. I have nothing but respect for the Spider-Man that raised me. *bewildered sigh*

"In 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#98845: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:39:17 PM

I don't hate Toby. I just hate...so much about the things he chooses to be.

Edited by alliterator on Mar 19th 2019 at 6:39:51 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#98846: Mar 19th 2019 at 6:39:23 PM

Its OK man,they're just h8ers,at least ours has his spider sense and Jonah Jameson!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#98847: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:07:05 PM

I love Raimi's first two films. The third one was...entertaining enough.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#98848: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:23:56 PM

I didn't like Tobey Maguire either. He never really captured Peter's relatability, mainly because he overshot "dork" and landed on "wussy doormat".

He was a fine enough first try back in the day when superhero films weren't really held to any standards and were just considered goofy niche films. But the Spider-Man actors have only improved since his day.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 19th 2019 at 8:24:36 AM

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#98849: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:26:58 PM

I'm never not going to like Toby's Peter and Spider-Man. Not because of nostalgia either.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#98850: Mar 19th 2019 at 7:28:05 PM

I can see why people wouldn't enjoy Maguire, but Garfield will always be the worst of the three. Not because the actor himself is bad mind you, but the way he was written made him insufferable.


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